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its a nemises pan, in other words, a puke pan

I made a HUGE spellilng error here, lol . Its not a nemises pan, its an EMESIS pan,...........I can just see it now,......my nemesis and arch enemy.............THE PUKE PAN, sometimes spelling counts, lol sorry

Anna: it's an eeeevil emesis pan...

eeew an emesis basin... emesis. (gag)

I really don't understand the shaping of these and why they are so small...what's wrong with a bucket? Maybe Lynne could be of some help here...

Anna, We forgive you. But darn girl that was funny! :)

Well, ya know, Barbara, I don't really know. It's just something I think we have seen so many times we forget that it is kinda odd. I think originally it was so you could have something small enough to grab onto quickly and you could put your hands on each side and hang on for dear life while puking your guts out, but I'll admit, the few times I have felt like that, the LAST thing I wanted was to continue holding onto anything that was going to stay that close to me - a bucket seemed like a MUCH nicer idea. 8`-) However, if you are bedridden, it's true that it's difficult to hoist a bucket up that quickly. I still find it hard to believe that most people can keep much of anything contained in that feeble little basin. It's not been my experience that they have been too terribly helpful. I still end up cleaning a LOT of stuff up. [Insert a weird screwed up grin right about here]

They also use them for toothbrushing if you have to stay in bed for a whiles, so's you can spit out the water when you brush your teeth.

Also, as gross as this sounds, there are times when you really kinda have to know just exactly how much someone threw up (hooray for input-output charts, eh, anna?), so I am happy to say that many (most?) of them are handily marked with both American and metric measurements for your measuring ease. [feeble grin - please quit retching, y'all, you think we LIKE to clean up puke?]

http://www.buyemp.com/dept.asp?dept_id=1071904
http://www.scooterlink.com/product_details.cfm?product_id=1202&catagory_id=627
http://www.siamintm.com/G-E.htm

P.S. "anna's arch-nemesis" - hee hee hee!!!!! When you have to clean that stuff up it's true - it quickly DOES become your arch-nemesis!!!! 8`-)

.....AND this is why I LOVE Lynne so much! :)

Ah ha, thank you Lynne. Disgusting, sure, but curiousity killed the cat, now didn't it? I do see how it might be helpful to have it curved to fit your neck or whatever, but I'm with you Lynne - I certainly wouldn't want my face that close, that would make me sick again! And not to be exceedingly gross (so if you have a weak stomach, don't read on! You've been warned!) but, uh, I'd have the say the splashback would be pretty bad with something so small...last thing I want is it all over my face and in my eye...(sorry for being disgusting, but such things make you think.) Don't hit me! *cowers in fear*

we never use an emesis basin for someone who is vomiting. Both the patient and myself would be covered in yucky stuff. We use a bath basin instead. Like lynn said , we usually use these for brushing teeth or as a spit basin.

such fun.............YEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAWWW

Those emesis basins are awful. The only advantage is that the curve of the basin fits neatly under the lips and wraps around so that as little puke as possible gets on stuff.

On the other hand, for those patients who are puking a LOT or very forcefully, it's not quite so good. Personally, I give people buckets if they tell me they want to puke.

For some reason NYS Dept. of Health requires us to carry 6 of these onboard an ambulance. Imagine one 3/4 full as you're bouncing down a street in Yonkers! They really are a nemesis!

Bill, my friend, I pity you. What a mess! 8`-)

I was just looking back at one of the sites I referenced earlier:

http://www.scooterlink...&catagory_id=627

You'll notice that it says that the emesis basins they sell are "autoclavable." That's the autoclave that Motts shows in some of his other pix:

http://www.opacity.us/image270.htm
http://www.opacity.us/image562.htm
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http://www.opacity.us/image1690.htm
http://www.opacity.us/image1980.htm
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http://www.opacity.us/image2043.htm
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http://www.opacity.us/image2718.htm

The idea being that rather than having to replace your equipment after it is used, you can save money by purchasing items that can be sterilized and re-sterilized via an autoclave. Obviously, if your autoclave is not working well it cannot properly sterilize your equipment. The initial cost of the autoclaves, the fact that they use energy, the fact that you have to take time to sterilize the equipment (with its concomitant paperwork to assure you have done this correctly for infection control issues), etc., etc., sometimes makes it more economical to purchase plastic and paper items that can be easily thrown away when you are finished using them. And, of course, no one ever even thinks that their own personal shiny stainless steel sterile-looking emesis pan may have been used by someone else previously. ;-)

The problem isn't keeping them clean. It's keeping them from tipping over before we get to the ER. If I have a little warning, I give the patient a large red bag and let them barf away. Then I tie a knot in the top. Then when the ER staff wants to see the emesis I hand them the bag!

Bless you!

Maybe next holiday season you can remember to attach a nice big seasonal bow to the bags. ;-)

Remember - it's the thought that counts... lol!

Gotta love those violently red "bodily fluids" bags!

"A surprise in every one..."

I work in an ER, and we only use those for patients who want to "spit into something." Their useless for vomiting into. (we hand out the large, sqaure shaped buckets) Whoever invented those small emesis basins just weren't thinking!!

Oh, and by the way, they make an excellent container for salsa and dips when your having a party for someone at work. (after you work in the ER for a while, nothing is gross anymore.) :-)

Makes it easy to weed out who the party crashers are at a health care picnic, too. ;-)

Actually this pan is a utility pan, not a puke pan. Sorry to declare you wrong, but during my service in the Chinese People's Liberation Army, every soldier is given one of these. And they are green, they are for every man to put his toothbrush, toothpaste, soap, razor and other toiletries. When I was stationed at Shaanxi, the guys in my unit would use these pans to collect wild herbs growing around our base, and add them to our daily supper rice and vegetables. We also have drinking cups of the same color.

Funny thing, though, I never expected to see these same pans being used in the USA.

I remember my grandpap always had one of those around when he was sick.

Raymond, I don't want to declare you wrong either, but perhaps partially wrong. I was sick one time after surgery into one of these pans.

Maybe their just exceptionally good at being multipurpose....

I've only ever heard them being called kidney dishes, had my ear washed out into one of these things at some point. The shape was ideal for the side of the head, the dish caught all the gooey stuff without running down my neck... plus they got to see what was coming out... yummy, bags not!

I've only known these as Kidney Bowls.

Check out the Red Dwarf episode Polymorth for a good example of using them to serve food in.

I see only one other person has commented on this type of pan being used for ear flushing. I definitely remember having one of these held up to my reclined head while cold gooey wax and peroxide dripped out of my ear. I had frequent ear problems as a kid so I never thought about them being used for any other purpose.

This is a tuberculosis hospital, right? Ever think that maybe it was used to spit out blood into?

those tiny little basins dont hold anything..i can puke alot more than that!! lol

Ugh, nemisis pans, when i'm puking the last thing i want to be puking in is a wee little bean shaped pan. I always miss or get puke on my hands, i need something big enough to pray to when i'm vomitting, like the porcelin goddess.

I dont like those those pans for any reason. I think they are disguting

I have to agree with Krista, I always had this put to my ear when my ear was flushed!

They used one to soak my hand after a run in (rather 'run thorugh') with a sharp object. Had I known other uses, I may have opted for a garbage can or something. :-)

I thought those were called Kidney bowls, though I never knew why...

Icky bed pan.

definatly a sick pan - used them a million times as ive had countless operations and been in and out of hosp when i was younger!

I'm not sure if it was this same shape or not, but my grandma has told me her story about when she had her tonsils removed. She had to hold onto something like this, while the doctor performed the surgery (gross as it may sound, to catch what he cut out)...and she was awake for it! Can't even imagine what it was like!!! This was back in the late teens or early 20's.

These are also used in surgery for sponges and other stuff. Of course those are metal and can be autoclaved.
Used to work ER also and we used the disposible ones for dips etc.
Many years ago a young man who had not been provided with a urinal handed me one of these that was full to the brim with urine. I have never figured out how he did that........he was on bedrest and ordered to stay on his back.......? YIKES

To quote Lynne:
"And, of course, no one ever even thinks that their own personal shiny stainless steel sterile-looking emesis pan may have been used by someone else previously. ;-)"

-Or, dishes in the dining room, if I may add!

"I see only one other person has commented on this type of pan being used for ear flushing. I definitely remember having one of these held up to my reclined head while cold gooey wax and peroxide dripped out of my ear. I had frequent ear problems as a kid so I never thought about them being used for any other purpose.
Krista"

Wow, and I quite disliked even the ear drops when I was young...

Sparky: "...She had to hold onto something like this, while the doctor performed the surgery..."

Ughh, a similar method of adenoid-ectomy was detailed in Roald Dahl's autobiography. Back when adenoids and tonsils were considered a useless nuisance.

they are used for many things. here we no longer use them for puking we have these lil bags attached to round like peice that fits over your mouth but being that its in a TB hospital it could be used for anything for them to spit into all the way to the doctors using them to hold stuff. they are called many things emises is the i would call it professional name kidney dish or bowl is the laymens term. because of the shape they are used for ear draining and such it is an alround multi purpose object and i think that was what it was made for