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id hate to have to be put in there.
i mean no 90 degree angles, come on.
great gallery once again Motts.
(:
LYNN WHERE ARE THOU??!?!
area for injury
I am forever saddened by what has happened to me there and what happened to all the ones i loved as friends throughout my two years in the dump..I have a knot in my chest that begs to know why something wasnt dome about this bull!whoeber thought this was the way to treat emotianlly troubled kids they had it all nazi wrong..Restraint and force dont make anyone want to show resect for you who does those things,..counselors more like guards with thee big ass keys swinign all around chiming constantly to let us know we were never leaving.NEVER and i have never been able to put it behind me far enough...
send me a friend request if your a serious person otherwise i can delete you or block you so dont bother me if youre intention is to screw with me becasue i dont ake any shit off of anybody and i will not take it from you whomever you may be rude one..
Between the old Met State down the road, the old Fernauld center (where they fed kids with downs syndrome radioactive milk in the 50s as an experiment on the effects of gamma rays on the human body) across the street, Gaebler, McLean (and even a smaller place which is a MUCH more positive environment called the protestant guild up the street) that part of town used to be a mental health mecca. Even though some of the facilities at the Fernauld are still periodically used, and McLean is still in full swing, there's a lot of abandoned stuff around there I bet... though on google maps lt looks like the abandoned army installation has been turned into athletic fields... probably for bentley.
I believe that they still have what I heard was the Gaebler/Fernauld/Met state escapee alarm system in place... air raid siren lookgin things. One of them may still be on the corner of the fernauld property with wires going across the street towards gaebler.
It all really exposes our ineptness as a society to deal with those who are different than us, and therefore sometimes 'inconvenient' to deal with. gah.
I think it might be a room on B-Ward.
Right before you step onto B-Ward there is a door to the left that has a mid length hallway in it.
Doors line the right side with a door at the very end of the hallway.
This looks like one of the rooms in that location on B-Ward.
My room was at the end of this hallway on the right hand side.
My second stay was back in 1981 or 1982, then I was a teenager and again, like back in the 70's, Mr. Heathwood was in charge of the place.
When you approach D-Ward there is a door on the left, this is the tv room. Straight ahead is the main door to D-Ward.
When you enter D-Ward there is a door on your left, this door is the office.
A door on to the right, which has 2 seclusion room.
up the hall you have another door on the left, this was where I stayed, in this room and all the way to the back on the left was where my bed was at.
The other was a female who had lost her right arm?
She had a hook.
Back in 1973 or 1974 when I was on B-Ward people from the outside would come in to sing and play music for us in the long hallway.
I don't recall any of the "counselor's names", but there was one guy who was leaving the place and he got permission from Mr. Heathwood to give me a pair of radio walkie-talkies.
If anyone else remembers, love to hear from you.
When I was on B-Ward (1973 or 1974) they used to have races.
We would race from one end of the ward to the other and back again.
I remember during one of these races a kid got his left arm caught on the water fountain.
The water fountain was right at the "elbow" of the hallway on the left hand side.
The kid tore his arm wide open and was taking to the hospital.
Needless to say the races was over and we could not run in the hallway anymore.
Sorry about my ramblings, memories surface and just trying to share them.
I have both good and bad memories from this place.
In 1981 or 1982 when I was on D-Ward there was a beautiful chinese girl who was on E-Ward, who I met going to school in the classrooms down on the first floor.
We was an item for awhile.
She taught me a little chinese.
And there was another girl named Kim (last name withheld) who was my girlfriend on D-Ward, and that got us into trouble!!
One night while the 3rd shift staff was asleep by the doors, me and another friend left our beds and went to the girls rooms at the end of the hallway on D-Ward, and, well, you can guess what took place.
Let me tell you, that got us into big, big trouble!
LOL
Let me tell you that nothing happened. I was scared to death! LOL
So what happened was we started to talk and someone woke up and screamed!
I was already scared to death to begin with and now I thought I was going to die!
All of a sudden we heard keys and running and so I hid long enough to be missed by one of the night counselors and took off to my bed.
Needless to say the following morning we was in big time trouble.
I think back on that now and I just laugh so hard.
-Jewel64@roadrunner.com-
Not too sure how many would like to relive those nightmares.
I recount some things and others, well, just left unsaid I guess.
When I was there in 1971 or 1972 I was placed there by my father because he didn't know what else to do with me.
Like most children I was hyper-active and parents really didn't understand that.
So as a result of that I became a ward of the state, and those memories are left buried.
I think though, the voices of the people who have been there need to be heard. Stories need to be told. People need to know about what happened there. The good and the bad before no one knows ANYTHING and this just becomes nothing. I think even if one person cared about what happened in this place it'd make a difference-somehow.
Wounds like this can not be healed-but talking about such things could be of help.
We miss you, but you will come back.
They always do, I will make sure of it.
True enough and I have related some stories and a lot of others are unsaid.
As for me, I still hurt, but I have moved on with my life.
That's not to say that the pictures do not revive the memories 'cause they do, it just takes effort, a lot of effort, to suppress those memories which I do not care to relive.
Does that mean I forgot them?
No, I will never forget them, I just choose not to relive them.
All of us kids who were there was hurt, others more so then others.
The kids who lived on Ward E was more abused then those on other Wards because of the staff that worked on Ward E.
Willie was working on Ward D when I was there, so was Jack and Jack was a hard ass who got his kicks out of restraining kids and smashing their faces into the floor after the staff already had the kid under control.
It did make a difference as to what Ward a child was placed on.
The hook, yeah, her favorite song was "Gloria" by Laura Branigan.
If you remember us going down to the girls end then yes, we know each other.
I can't remember the name of the kid, Danny I think, had bad feet, that could peel the paint off the walls!!!!
Been a long time.
You know me, I was the only red headed kid on Ward D. LOL.
You mentioned Sharon, yeah, she screamed bloody murder that night, that's what alerted the night staff.
I was down there seeing Kim, not her.
When were you there?
Not a whole a lot of romance on D-ward, although I've heard E-Ward was getting lots of action in that department.
Have to find someone who was on E-ward for those stories.
I've only been to E-ward a couple of times, and those times was seclusion. LOL
When I was on D-ward back in the 80's I had a girl friend from E-ward who taught me some chinese.
After we broke up I ended up with a girl friend on D-ward by pure chance.
In fact it started out as a joke.
What I mean by that is, 4 of us was making jokes about seeing each other later that night, I said to Kim I'll see you later, and she said no, and I said something to the effect of what do you mean no, how about giving me a chance?
And she did, and it was cool.
She used to draw pictures of Pacman and Mrs. Pacman and give them to me. I used to hang them up on the wall by my bed.
I still remember her and her last name. But out of privacy for her I leave her last name off.
If she visits and wants to give more about it that is her call.
I didn't recognize it at first because of the window, it's off center.
That could be because of the angle of the picture.
But you are right, it is seclusion.
I'm doing good.
Living life and being free.
What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger.
I remember Tony, and Mike I think his name was.
we lived in the same room. Both Tony and Mike had the beds straight ahead as you walk into the room, my bed was at the end of the room on the right hand side next to the tall closet/locker thing.
But I don't think you was in the same room as us.
Was you in the room straight across from us?
OMG, if you were, you have to remember Danny, When he took his shoes off the paint would peel and hazmat workers would come to close the area!
No Bull, that kid HAD FEET!!!! LOL
Considering that I was kicked out of Devereux
School for repeated run aways.
I was a ward of the state, Lived in Devereux, Wellington Hall, RFK, Kolburne, I was all over.
no problem, I don't mind answering questions.
If you have questions, please ask them.
Are we allowed to use our real names in order to contact others who were there?
I hope you don't mind but I was reading some of the storys and comments you posted on here and I just want you to know that I know what you went through there was horrible and that you all will be in my prayers.
There are rumors that the facility experimented on children. I couldn't find much on that and I'm just wondering if it is true at all? Have any of you been able to go back to visit the place before it is demolished?
Group name: GCC2010
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Group email: GCC2010@yahoogroups.com
Sorry, haven't been online in almost a year.
I think I'll sign up for that yahoo group that someone made, if it's still up.
I just signed up with the yahoo group.
the rumors are true.
If you click on my name you should be able to read all my posted comments on here.
I knew they would tear this down, I posted that I had a feeling about that last year.
Waltham doesn't want the memories of that place to taint them any longer, but those memories will remain, for those of us who was there, forever.
There are others Johns that have posted about places I have never been.
Hey Dennis, just out of curiosity, is that Dairy Queen still down the road from Gaebler?
I remember going to that when Gary would come up and take me out for a couple of hours.
I'll have to look. Did I know gary black hair? I was on the grounds today. Its a public park owned by the city of waltham. There's a new sign out front. So motts I hope this doesn't get my post taken off for being on the grounds? The sign sais its a preserve park for the use and enjoyment of waltham residents. But john I'm getting a sample of paint off the old water tower cause the city might let me have it for scrap metal. I'll check for the DQ and let u know. I do remember izzys sub shop though. That's gone
He was a good man who cared.
Damn, I miss fried clams!!!!!
No DQ its gone
I can't believe they are finally going to take down the building, I was just there and I didn't see any signs except no tresspassing, even thou I did it anyways. I swear to god when I went in there the 1st time a couple months ago my husband and I could hear voices of children screaming and banging on the windows, it was very erie... Shame on the world for locking us up and not giving us the chance to have a childhood....I honestly believes what goes around comes around and I pray that the staff members Jack,Harvery,Joanna and Melodee get what they have coming, they were not nice to us children on Ward D at all, they treated us like we were criminals and slaves and the degraded us all the time....I pray for any children that they might of had...
If u go there again let me know. I love going with people that were there. I'm not far and I'm the owner of my company so I can leave any time
The next time I go., I will call you and we can meet......
hello, I don't know it's being torn down, I live in Waltham so I am forever checking on it, I will let you know, I will email you on your facebook and you can email at anytime ....
Thanks, I didn't think the DQ was still there, but just wanted to check.
Pookie, sent you a message on facebook.
I know for a fact, since I am a resident of Waltham most of my life since I was at Gaebler in 82-84 and they just wanted the building down because there were to many kids getting in it and partying and trashing the place and all the asbestos was out in the open and getting into the air and before it gets to the residents that live near the building they are taking it down, It should be down this week if the weahter cooperates, It's all gutted out and scary looking, my husband and I were just there we walked thru the woods to get to it cause the police are patrolling it since you can easily get into the building now even thou there is a fench around, cause honestly, I have been in it a dozen times in the past few months when it was just boarded up and now all the windows have been knocked out and the asbestos taking out and they even knocked out some of the structure where the bottom floor doors are so you can now just walk in, I am going to go up there today if the weather here cooperates, it's been raining and I have been sick the past few days and haven't been able to get out of bed until this am. Yes the cops are everywhere now looking for tresspassers but, there is such a way around it, I know the woods like the back of my hands and that is how you go around it. Request me on facebook Michelle Woods-Godfory I have a lot of pictures from being inside the building and outside on the grounds and took video's as well....I will keep you and everyone updated as much as I can,,,,,,
But after checking in here a few weeks ago I quickly made 2 trips up there over the past 2 weeks, both at night, as was my first trip up there, cause I was of course afraid of the coppers. And yeah even though I snuck in through the front if need be I certainly could've made a run for the woods, and I know just from maps those woods don't go to far before you hit civilization again. ;) Actually my last time there it was in the wee dark morning hours and as I was approaching a cop(or private security? I didn't wanna look too close at it, lol) SUV or pickup type vehicle was just coming down the driveway and leaving! :O ;)
But yeah I snuck up there and in the back there's a place where the construction fence(and these fences are pretty flimsy as it is) was already kinda pushed down(bet I can guess why, lol), and yep the place is all opened up and you can just walk in and I went all through the place, as some of the stairs were still intact for the workers no doubt of course. So I checked out the basement, which by the way there actually seems to be a second smaller section of the basement on the back of the center section which is completely separated from the larger section, and it looked like maybe kitchen/food storage(??), as there was an old upright freezer still down there. Also checked out the upper floors, gym was still intact, all the little closets or bathrooms or other nooks and crannies I could find, as well as the roof and even the elevator utility room way up at the tipity top. ;) Interesting how in the basement the amount of large electrical utility equipment that building needed . And then of course there's that Freddy Krueger-like boiler room, lol ;) which for some reason has some flooded standing water in it. I also on my second trip wanted to look more closely at some of the sorta stubbles for lack of a better word left where walls used to be to try and figure out where those seclusion cells were, and I think I found them. I'll ask you about it but it looks like they were along the back wall on the third and second(?) floors, on either side of the center core, and facing out the back yes?? And also it seems like there corridor was just a smaller corridor parallel to the larger central corridors?
Well but ya yr certainly right it's dark and creapy, and with all the debris and construction plastic hanging around and all the breeze you get up on that hill there's always some sudden small noises that might startle you a bit, especially at night. ;) And then I'm also kinda noticing of interesting smells, and all throughout there was this kinda distinctive smell, I guess from the old building materials(?) Also on one of the upper floors i could smell what smelled like really old stale pee, I assume from all the trespassers prob. and not from it's operating days. But yeah it's pretty interesting, and I look forward to hopefully talking to you. :)
That's when I was there. Who was your older brother? If you don't mind me asking! I thing I would know him.
I agree with you about our parents never being allowed in our rooms, I don't know why that was, when I was there 82-84, they had to visit us downstairs where you actually first come into the building, my parents were never allowed on the ward I was on, I was on D, it was really strange, I think the staff knew that if they let the parents up to see our ward and bedrooms and what kind of living conditions we live in then there would have been a lot more law suits then already going on at the time,...but, now the building is gone, it's been taken down, nothing left but rubble and debris, Tues 11/16/10 it was completely down...
The fence was flimsy because I would drive over it with pookie to get in without having to climb. But its gone now
you are so my friend I wish I had when I was growing up, we could have taken on the world,,,,,but, it's never to late......
GeablerSchoolGirl I set you a request on myspace please add me.
J.G. is there anyway I can get in contact with your brother?
AS for the others I would love to talk to you about what happened to you in The Geabier Children's Center.
Please contact me.
jann22896@yahoo.com
http://www.facebook.co...p?id=100001464930368
I sent you a message on face book
If you want you can request me on facebook and see my pictures and videos of Gaebler, my name is Michelle Woods Godfroy
Hello there, my name is Michelle Woods-Godfroy, I was there from 82-84 and on Ward D, what years were you there? The place did suck and yes they did give us thorazine, benadryl and something else to keep us calm, I think it was valium. They did treat us like shit, there were a couple of staff members that I liked, they were Willy and Suzanne, they actually did like us kids,but, the rest of them were really mean and abused their power. I hope they all rott in hell...
I second that
I just wanted to say thank you for being you, you are truely a great guy,....I can't believe they took the building down, can't wait for all the snow to melt so I can what the place looks like....
My brothers name is Danny. He would have been between 8 and 10...not really sure I don't remember exactly when he was there. I was pretty young myself.
Estepeni,
My brother is currently living in F.I.N.R in FL. He doesn't currently have internet access.
My brother has been in quite a few facilities since Gaebler. He has tourettes.
What. Was his last name. Or sorry. What is his last name? I might know him. If you don't want to put it here, send it to me on facebook "dennis bunting" the one with dirty blond hair, and a black shirt.
Without knowing what?
I applaud your courage in telling your story. I was also mistreated there ( I went from 1977-80). The homeroom teachers there were either dim-witted old-timers who didn't know about our true conditions, or abusive tyrants (with a my-way-or-the-highway mentality) who didn't CARE about our true conditions. They were in the wrong, not us (you cannot learn how to be a responsible adult when you're locked away in an isolated room, like I was most of the time). I also have anger from the way they treated us like garbage. I've lashed out on jobs (more frequently than I'd like to admit). That's why I'm unemployed today. I hate society! They expect you to tow their adult line after they couldn't be bothered with you as a kid.
But I WILL own up to one bad mistake that I'm truly sorry for. I apologize to you and the other gaebler girls if some of my bad jokes upset you. If I had only known what kind of hell the gaebler girls REALLY went through, I would not crack my bad sex jokes there. Let's just put it that way.
You were there before me, but for some reason the Gaebler girls sounds familiar. How are today. I spent alot of time in the building until they took it down a few months ago. Do you still live in the area?
Sorry the above message was for JG, NOT FROM JG, I SCREWED UP THE NAME SLOT, SORRY JG....
John D From Ward D.
Yes you are right about Danny's feet, he was so scared to go in that locked shower room, I don't blame him, I was scared too...he is much better now, I talk to him all the time......
So many memories....
It is nice that we have a place to share our thoughts and meet people who was there.
All of us have that special bond that only we can relate too.
I remember you and I am thankful that most of us came out of that place better people then those who worked there.
It must be really weird to see pictures of the seclusion room that you were in and to go there as a visitor. I picture the seclusion rooms that I have been in, but never have seen photographs. I am not sure what that experience would be like.
I went in a few seclusion rooms that I was in. I even closed the door in the room that is in this picture. That was last year when I was there with pookie. I was showing a friend of mine how we used to bang on the window. It was very weird being in that room. I can't even explain the feelings I felt. I even spent a night in one of my old rooms. I don't know why I did that and it sounds kinda weird, but that's what I did. I don't know why. It was weird though
I know! I bid the boiler demo. I was there for a lot of it