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Scarred Seclusion

A torched seclusion room door remains with beautiful scars.
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Love this shot! Amazing.
This reminds me of the movie "Forbidden Planet" when the "id" melts down the walls! Excellent shot!
This is certainly one of my new favorites
Theres a real silent hill feeling about this shot. Love it
I can't even put it into words...
Man! You hitb the nail on the head.....SILENT HILL
Does'nt it just make you wonder what kind of child would have to be put behind a door like that.
Or what it would feel like being placed behind it
You're right, Motts. These are beautiful scars!
Excellent shot!
wow.
this door looks like it could be a portal to the underworld or something.

amazing shot.
love the colors.
Incredible, Motts. It looks so surreal.
Burned. In all of hearts of hearts, it will be burned forever. For whatever happened there or not happened there, there was a lot inspiration and a whole mess of desparation. You will always be the man, Motts.
Great picture! Looks like some one got a little happy with the torch. I especially like what appears to be a hand print "clawing" at the light switch. I'm glad to see there are others who compare these scenes to Silent Hill. That's exactly what I was thinking!
Your photos make me feel again.
Looks like something out of "Halloween"
Carol Anne's closet door in Poltergeist
way cool I could see "Pyramid Head" from "Silent Hill" standing on the other side of that door.

What's on the other side of the door?
Life
death or
in-between
I'm guessing dust, mold, maybe a little asbestos.
It looks like the torture these kids endured is trying to escape the room.

AWESOME shot though, wallpaper maybe?? Plz Motts?? =)
Hmm... Some people can find torture everywhere they look...
breath taking. i'm amazed
It looks like a crazy place! I like the scary texture to the door...
Pyramid head is waiting for you. Come to the other side.
Thats exactly what it looks like though...damn Pyramid Head. This shot is amazing!
totally gives me the heeby-jeebies

what an effect
Reminds me of something out of a "living dead" film, very frightening. I am not sure why. Well done as well, which of course does not hurt.
what a decrepid place, innocence of children whose minds are futher tainted by such ugliness and fear... great photos! very deep.
Fire doors reall do work !
Another shot only you could take. Amazing...
scarred walls that scarred so many lives... seems only fitting doesn't it ?
One of the best photos I think I've ever seen. You could definitely find a thousand words from this picture.
If you listen closely, you'll hear a thousand plus screams come from that room... Seclusion, striped naked as the day you was born and the only thing in the room was a blueish-green plastic mattress that, if you lift up you'll find shit and piss under, and that was what you had to sleep on.
No pillow, no blankets, no water, no food, no bathroom break.
Depending on what you did, your stay in here was for several hours or several days.
I don't think watching this ghost hunter show is helping me, but I'm getting such chills up and down my spine. Beautiful picture.
Haunting yet stunning. Reminds me of "the Room" in a story I've written.
i was there in 1985 while it was up and running and those rooms were no fun. That place was specifically for children, but some children's needs were made worse being locked up there. It was really not a nice place to be.
A CHILD THAT SWEARS WILL WIND UP ATTACKED AND PUT IN HERE. A CHILD WHO ISNT DOING EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE TOLD WILL BE PUT IN HERE .
A CHILD THAT MADE A STAFF MEMBER MAD WILL BE PUT IN HERE STAFF MEMBERS WITH GRUDGES AGAINST THE KIDS WERE EVIL SCUM....
4 POINT RESTRAINED KIDS WIND UP IN HERE..LIKE THEY ARE GETTING OUT ..KIDS WERE STRIPPED OF THEIR DIGNITY HERE ALONG WITH THEIR CLOTHES..KIDS WERE
LEFT HERE TO WALLOW IN SUFFERING WHILE THEY SCREAMED...KIDS WERE LEFT IN HERE FOR MANY HOURS WITH NO FOOD NO BATHROOM CALLS ..SO KIDS PISSED IN HERE..KIDS LIKE YOU COULD HAVE BEEN HERE THATS WHAT KIND OF KIDS WIND UP IN A ROOM LIKE THIS.
KIDS LIKE YOU.
THIS IS THE ROOM WHERE NO BODY HEARS YOUR SCREAMS ! THIS IS THE ROOM WHERE YOU DIE MORE EVERY DAY THIS IS THE ROOM THAT YOU ARE NO LONGER A HUMAN IN..THIS ROOM IS THERE TO PUNISH UMILIATE AND DEGRADE EVERY PART OF HUMAINITY YOU HAVE IN YOU.THIS IS THE ROOM THAT REALLY MAKES YOU ASK YOURSELF WHAT'S CRAZY.
IS THERE ANYBODY OUT THERE FOR ME ..i DIE ANOTHER DAY AS I DIE ANOTHER WAY AT THE HANDS OF THOSE WHO WOULD NOT CARE TO SEE WHO I AM OR WHAT I MIGHT BE..I DIE MORE EVERYDAY.
Tis shot is completely beautiful. I could cry from the emotion that screams from its very existence. Unbelievably AMAZING.
Jima,
Unbelievably Amazing???????
A beautiful shot????????
You can't imagine what we went through in these rooms!
No Jima, these shots are not beautiful nor are they amazing.
These shots are beautiful. They express what no words ever could. You misenterpreted my statements. I never said they were positive. But so much lies behind this image that it simply boggles the mind. The energy and stories that it would tell if it could are amazing.
I need to say (and if I could I would be actually SHOUTING) READ THE COMMENTS FROM THOSE WHO ACTUALLY GOT PUT IN THESE PLACES before you write. I am close to tears here as I read from Gaebler school girl then immediately after, a comment reading 'amazing' and 'beautiful' . I am not diminishing anyone's viewpoint (sorry Jima) but I really feel these people's pain as they look at these images. Motts, you are a GREAT photographer and a sensitive artist. You must feel responsible for evoking these reactions in people who lived these things first hand?
This site is so depressing when you think of the subject matter being captured. Thank you for taking these photos as it give us an appreciation of what should never happen to kids.
Seeing this picture and hearing the comments of john and gaebler school girl give me some closure to that part of my life. This let's me see that there are people that have gone through what I've gone through and it helps. As for the picture! It looks now what it felt like then. "Dark, dirty, and forgotten" I use to lay on the floor with my mouth near the bottom of the door, and scream out. I would scream for hours and hours knowing that people could hear me. After 8 or 9 hours shawna or audrie would yell from there room and I would stop. I don't know why I stopped, maybe because I knew then that there were kids out there that were here with me and I wasn't alone. For some reason shawna's "from ward A" talking to me in the rec room always helped me a lot. I keep looking at this picture every day and I read the words people wrote and I just feel better inside. I don't know how we all made it through this but we did. Maybe it's because this was just a part of normal life to all of us. And that's how we lived. Some day we'll all get together as a reunion or something like that. But till then this sight will be great. Keep adding comments. And thank you all.
Merry christmas to all of us who never had one then
Hey, I am personally starting a new group in yahoo for former patients to openly discuss their time at Gaebler. Please feel free to come by and visit.


Group name: GCC2010
Group home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GCC2010
Group email: GCC2010@yahoogroups.com
Yes, this is a seclusion room, and it's very scary, and the staff would leave you in there for hours, and if you didn't stop yelling and screaming then they would close the big door to the 2 room seclusion area so that even they couldn't hear you never mind the other children on the ward. My boyfirned at the time, was always being secluded, and he was so strong that they always had to call for help from the other wards, they treatd him like shit, and he was so abused mentally and physically in there. It's not a humane place for anyone..we were just kids, kids with ordinary problems like everyone else, but, soiciety and our parents chose to lock the doors & throw away the key. I can't even explain the fear of that room, yes i was in it, and yes, it did smell but, on my ward they did at least clean it up if a child had an accident.
very erie. Kinda gives me the creeps....
Pookie do I know you. Were you on ward A with a very strong boyfriend
Hello Boiler,
I don't think that you know me, I was on Ward D, from 1982--1983, my boyfriend at the time was very strong though, he was on Ward B when he first got there and then went to Ward D when he became a pre-teen. What is your name? I am Michelle Woods, and I just went there today to try and get some clousure in my life and let me tell you, the place is so friggin scary, I knew exactly where I was went I went in, I did take some pictures and I will post them as soon as I figure out how to do it on here. I actually am still in contact with my ex-boyfriend, we are best friends. I have seen him a few times in the past couple months. All the walls have writing on them, and all the rooms are pretty damaged, but, you can make out the cafeteria, which is almost arcoss the door to the stairs that go upstairs to the Wards. I saw all the school rooms, the seclusion rooms on my Ward, and my bedroom on the Ward I was on. It's just so erie, and I can't believe that my mother put in there, I didn't need that kind of structure, actually none of his kids needed that kind of structure, getting locked in the shower, and the building,and when it was lock down all the bedroom doors would get locked. The staff members that were there when I was there, was, Willy,Suzanne,Jack,Melodee,Harvey,Joanna and a couple others that I can''t remember. I hated all the Dr's there, they always made me feel like there was something wrong with me physically cause I was overweight, and the pysche Dr's were crazy, I think they were worse then us kids, they made me out to be such a off the hook child, that had such a behavioral problem that I needed to be locked up. And they would give us medicine to keep all calm, I can't remember the name of it, but, it was like a thorazine. It's just horrible and an inhumane place for children, I man jails aren't even like this place. I hope that someday they tr this building down, cause I live in Waltham and I have most of my life and I drive by there all the time and it just brings back horrible memories. I hope that you are doing well in your life considering being here in that place, I am married, with 2 beautiful girls and I have a wonderful husband. Thank God for him...
Pookie
U are a different person than I thought. If you go there again let me know. U can look me up on facebook under dennis bunting. I have a black shirt,blond hair, and am a pretty strong guy. Just friend request me. I have some friends on there from your time. I would love to go there with someone that was there just to talk about old times. Or call me 617-733-8597 its my cell. I own a boiler company so the # is right. I have three great kids and I am doing great.
Does anyone know shawna w from ward A 1988
this is an awesome picture
This is very sad...all those kids needed was to feel wanted, loved, and cared about. What kind of family backgrounds did they come from? Were they ever nurtured while growing up? If only we could heal those lost souls today, to reach out to them and let them know that they, too, are special in God's eyes and deserve validation.
Marie
A lot of us know that now but did loose a feeling of love and family from that time. Its just different for us. Some of the best friends I have ever had were while I was here. us kids just fell apon each other. And we all stuck together. For the ones I talk to today, even though I haven't met them and they were there at different times. There still seems to be a type of bond.
@Boiler 1220-Hi! I'm glad you all at least had that bond together. Somethimes when people go through rough times, it brings them together, since they are all feeling similar things. I hope you're doing OK today-best wishes! : )
Marie
You know! I never had any friends later on, like the ones I had when I was in gaebler. Did any of us?
@Boiler 1220-Hello again! I was just wondering, were there any music or art therapists employed at the Gaebler? Just curious.
Marie
Not that I could tell you. The only therapists that I knew of were there to find any kind of problem they could label you with, or make up. And make sure it stuck with you for the rest of your time in the system. There were also some that met with you to see how all the meds they tried on you were affecting you. They were not good people in my eyes.
@Boiler 1220-I'm sorry that the environment at the Gaebler was not therapeutic. If you don't mind me asking, was it a more positive environment at Danvers State?
Marie
Yes it was. The program is still up and running in tewksbury ma. Its called centerpoint. It moved there when danvers closed. At that time the place was very helpful. The problem I had was trying to explain to them that I had lied to geabler and told them that I had done all the stuff that they said I did just to get out. They didn't believe that all the stuff that went on in gaebler went on, and thought "the move was to much for me" and I was back in denial. after three years of a lot of crap I was cleared and released. Centerpoint has changed a lot of procedures and remains a helpful therapeutic I.R.T.P. "Individual residential treatment program". It changed once all these places like gaebler closed down. Its to bad I couldn't work with the people there just because I stopped working with them once they didn't believe me about gaebler. They didn't want to let me out and got a court order to keep me in. But a outside therapist evaluated me and said I was perfectly normal. And some court evidable testing cleared me. They found out all the stuff did happen at gaebler and apologized. I still talk to them now and then. And some staff still work there 16 years later.
Marie
How did u know I was in danvers state???
@Boiler 1220-I'm glad the atmosphere at Danvers State was better. I knew you were there, because I read one of your former posts at the Danvers State photo area on this site. You can read all former posts of everyone when you click on the person's name at the bottom, such as if you click on "MARIE, CMT" you can see all my former posts on this website.

I've always been fascinated with the architecture of the old Kirkbride "castle" at Danvers State Hospital. It's too bad most of it is gone-only the adminstration part is left, the rest are new apartments. At least the old cemetary is still intact. I'll never forget the first time I saw the "castle" many years ago-it was breathtaking. The countryside grounds were beautiful, and I loved the old wooden roof-covered staircase that went up the hill-I've taken walks there many times. The reason why I know of its existence was that I was a student doing a Music Therapy internship at Hogan Regional Center at the bottom of Hathorne Hill. I would have loved to work at the old "castle" as a Music Therapist, but it was already closed. It's a shame that the State did not try to rehab this hauntingly beautiful building.
Marie
The castle was taken down because of a huge fire while they were working on it. I loved the wood covered stair case. I used to ride my bike all the way down. It was a good ride. It is to bad most of it is gone. I was at gaebler today though A loved seeing the old swing set. That's the best swing set I can ever remember. I loved seeing the tree. Good memories. There was a toy that u sat on and spun it. It still spins like the day I played on it. The wood is gone but it spins great. I love going there. That was the best and worst part of my life. I go there to see all the good times. I love seeing all my old life. The tree is one we always used to climb. About ten of us were in it at once.
@Boiler1220-I'm glad you remember the good times. I also remember my favorite swing that was in a park near my house-it was the type of ride that was shaped like a horse and swung back and forth. It's nice to remember the happy times of our childhood-those are the ones we should concentrate on. : )
Marie
I got so many pics today. I got all my old rooms and everything
@Boiler 1220-That's really great that you were able to take a lot of pics! Do you know what the city is going to do with the building?
I think its bein torn down...thats probab;y why another poster on the first picture said that a city worker said its open to contractors.
Marie
Yeah there gonna take it down. There is so much asbestos there. Its gonna take a while. When I was there I found some old papers. They were test papers for doctors or staff to fill out after giving us certain drugs. They were in the old records room. It was creepy
@Boiler 1220-Wow, it's amazing that they are finally taking it down. You're right, the asbestos is a real problem. It's too bad that the building couldn't be rehabed into a new and more therapeutic facility for children with competent staff, including caring music and art therapists. It's a shame that you and your friends had to deal with such incompetent staff. It should have been a place of healing and building up the spirit of the person, not the tearing down. I pray for all of you that God touches His healing hand upon you always.
Marie
After all the stuff there. I think it was a good life experience. A lot of us are so strong now.
@Boiler 1220-Do you know what the city is going to do with the land once the Gaebler is gone?
I live in Waltham and I was also a patient at Gaebler, I go by it all the time,, it was not a fun place to be at or anything that helped heal us children, we were mentally and physically abused and treated like we were nothing, so getting out of there was the best thing for everyone who has ever been a patient there, and now that they are at some point going to take the building down, can only now help us heal. I believe that are going to be putting up condo's or townhouse or both, that is what Waltham does when they tear down a mental institition, they did it to a cronically ill and mentally ill place like 30 seconds up the hill, I forget the name of it, but, that is now all townhouses. But, I don't know if us patients/kids will ever be able to have complete clousure even thou the building will be torn down, but,as usual Waltham is taking thier time. I hope that your stay there was better than mine....
Marie ,
The message that was just posted on 7/5/2010 was from me, I am sorry, I don't know how your name got on it that you posted it sorry again. And I have been inside there quite a few times and took lots of pictures and OMG!! I can't believe all the things that I have seen, it's friggin scary, the place is trashed, and there are rooms that I never knew about, can't believe we had to endure such a life, we weren't patients as my husband would say we were inmates & victims...
@Pookie, Former Patient-That's OK about the typo-you never know about computers; sometimes strange things happen! Give me a pencil and paper, the old fashioned way, any day! : )

I'm sorry that so many of you former residents at the Gaebler went through such awful times. It should have been a place of healing, not hurt. I am a Certified Music Therapist (CMT), and have worked with many populations of clients, including psychiatric patients. One of my internships was at McClean Hospital in Belmont, MA-this was a very good facility that truly cared for its residents. I really wished that I could have been a Music Therapist at the Gaebler, because I really wanted to help you all! Please know that, in my heart, I would have liked to provide a caring, therapeutic environment for all of you! May God Bless you! : )
Hey Mista' Motts! ; ) Thank you for "fixing" the typo. Not only are you a gifted artist of photography, but also a wiz at computer programming. I know that I make a lot of jokes about being a "Luddite" and lovin' those old, analog ways, but, truly, I do admire your talent for putting this website together so creatively. I especially love the way you made it soooo easy to post comments; and how great it is to see all our former posts by clicking our names. Good job, Mista' Motts!
Thanks Marie :-)
Your welcome! : )
Thanks Motts for fixing my name screw up...I appreciate it....I suck at this computer stuff......
Yeah, I was there in the early 70s and your taxes paid for it.

This is what adult humans do to adolesence humans.

The staff that made the Gaebler Children's Center exist
should be living with a lot guilt for making it function.
The staff were more a part it than the building itself.
To Ward D patient,
You are so right, it really was the staff that made that place and a horror place at that, they treated us children and yes we were just children like we were mentally unstable and were a menace to society, I don't know how they live with themselves but, I believe what goes around comes around and they will get what is coming to them someday if it hasn't already happened....
i was in the center lastnight and there were very loud nosies coming from a room tht was locked we tried to open the door but it was stuck shut if any one eles herd the noise be4 please comment
Noname
What floor? Which ward? Were is the door. I can help find out
Noname,
yes, I have heard those same noises when I was there, but, I just thought that I was hallucinating and didn't want to believe what I was hearing, I heard it up on the 2nd and 3rd floors, which would be Ward d and B on the 2nd floor and Ward E and A on the 3rd floor, or I think it's Ward A, I know it's ward e casue my cousin was on ward e when I was there on ward d. The place is just really freaky now, and all kinds of noises I hear, I heard childrens voices and a constant knocking noise on the windows like we used to do and always scream for help, and the knocking noise was in perfect harmony, it was really weird.
Noname,
Explain to me how you got in there on 7/28/2010, because the building is fenched off and there is a locked door on ther front of the building , and also there are no locked doors inside of the building, I have been on every floor and every ward and every room, and when they closed the building. the took all the locls off the doors so people couldn't get locked in any of the rooms and suffocate and die....
Pookie
I think that was the noise I heard while in the cafe on sunday. As soon as I got in I said "what's that noise". I wonder if that's the noise you talk of. I thought someone was there at first
Noname
That was the noise it sounded like someone banging on a seclusion room door. Where was the door that was stuck. I will get it open. I didn't hear the banging long enough to see where it was coming from
Boiler1220,
Hello, I know of the noise, but, I guess I just tried to block it out, cause we were in there, I didn't see any locked doors, so if Scott can tell us where that door is yes, we need to unlock it, Eric and I went there yesterday but, couldn't really see what was done. Can't wait for Sunday and to see you again....
Noname,
I heard the noise on Sunday when I was there with Boiler1220, Do tell him what do it is, cause honestly, he is a determined and strong man, he will so get the door opened,, trust me, I seen him in action.....

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