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Did there appear to be other images or writing, i just wonder what else is hidden under the paint.
Anyways, I shouldn't even be engaging in this sort of speculative shenanigans, not knowing anything about the person who drew this. For all we know, one of the staff may have had their child with them at work one day (we have seen in other posts that this was not an uncommon occurrence in the past) and maybe the child drew on the wall and then it got painted over.
P.S. Almost all portraits are self-portraits in some way, and I'm not even a Freudian. :-)
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then again, I'd never deface such an interesting defacement.
Licensed clinical psych with dual emphasis in clinical child psych and mental retardation, plus years and years and more years of working in various facilities, group homes, schools, hospitals, private homes, blah, blah, blah, blah. :-)
i know the comments on this picture are getting long, but what does the circle drawn around the rabbit symbolize ?
This drawing prompted to look back through some of my old testing materials. I couldn't find my cognitive scoring paperwork, but I am now going to stake $1.20 (that's a large sum for me) that the bunny was indeed drawn by someone at the 4 to 6 year developmental level. Since I mainly test children of all cognitive levels and adults with intellectual disabilities, I like using drawings to start a testing session to warm the person up and give them something "fun" to do. I have had good luck using drawings to estimate cognitive level - the results correlate fairly well with standardized intelligence tests. I *rarely* use them for emotional interpretation, as they sometimes reflect more about the interpreter than the interpretee. :-)
I couldn't find anything about a circle being drawn around the drawing, and again we are merely speculating here (think of this as a sophisticated parlor game, y'all), but I am remembering that a circle around a drawing would probably be interpreted as one of several things. 1-) The person has some organicity (brain damage) and needs to draw a boundary for the drawing so it "stays in one place." People with brain trauma or other organic issues sometimes have a hard time knowing where one thing stops and another starts, so they will sometimes draw a boundary to help them establish edges. If they draw on a piece of paper they sometimes can't "negotiate space" and will start too close to the edge of the paper and their drawing may end up being squished so it will all fit on the paper, or sometimes parts are left off because they can't orient themselves to start the drawing in the middle of the paper and they run out of room. 2-) The person feels closed in or trapped. 3-) The person feels secure and homey and all nestled up.
So you see, there is a way to interpret it as either bad or good. You have to put it in context with a bazillion other variables.
I did some quick research scanning and there is definitely some support for prominent teeth in a drawing being indicative of hostility. However, it doesn't indicate whether YOU feel hostile or whether you feel others are being hostile TOWARD you.
OK, more than anyone ever wanted to know about the interpretation of drawings. :-)
You win the gazillion dollar prize! That has been a huge problem in my field. For years (and even today, I am ashamed to have to admit) when someone with an intellectual disability talked to an imaginary friend they ran the risk of being labeled schizophrenic and put on meds. If you look at their developmental level, however, you see that this is not abnormal or unexpected. Lots of young children at the very same developmental level have imaginary friends and they are not (normally, thank God) put on medication because of it. As well, when there was crappy funding and staffing levels were low, there were times when some folks had no one else to talk to who was verbal, so a good way to pass the time was to make up an imaginary friend.
If people bother to take the time to look (and many don't), there is a world of difference between an imaginary friend and a hallucination. Imaginary friends are generally positive experiences and the person with one doesn't change their overall functioning level. They still interact with others, they remember to eat and drink and take care of hygiene, etc. Hallucinations, on the other hand, are generally very frightening or upsetting and the person shows general signs of deterioration along with them, such as forgetting about hygiene, getting paranoid over almost anything, etc.
Just out of curiousity (I know I can't spell lol) did you ever deal with a patient who did intentionally do bad stuff just to get on the staffs nerves?
Has a patient ever managed to do something so disturbing that deep down you were a bit unnerved?
Sorry for all the questions but I find it so fasniating to hear the opinions of those who work with and care for the mentally ill.
Sorry about my spelling. :)
Regarding the "extra ear", I don't think that it is an ear at all. I believe that what we have here is an attempt at perspective of sorts. It appears that the front leg is directly below the face. I believe that the bump is the end of the rabbit's other foot peaking out from the other side. Think of one of those little stuffed animals that lays on it's stomach. Maybe this lonely child/adult had a stuffed toy that was it's only friend and they gave it a bit of a personality.
The circle around it may just be to emphasize the picture or to frame it, I often do this when i draw things that i want to stand out.
- It's an outline of a fist. Probably someone with a pencil got bored and traced their hand on the wall, then got creative.
- The perspective is "off". It's hard to tell what angle this is or what composes the "body". Is it laying down? Are we looking at it from above?
- The expression. It's taken something normally cute and happy and made it a little TOO MUCH so. Like the Cheshire Cat's grin, it looks "wrong"... not as in incorrect, but as in so close to normal- but not QUITE.
Creepy. I approve!
Second...I completely agree with the "imaginary friend being ok for adults" theory. I don't know if it's just because I like to talk a lot and don't always have a willing listener, or if it's just that the ones you make up always say what you want them to say so YOU can say what you wanna say, but i have hosts of imaginary people I talk to constantly. However it's only when I'm alone and I'm confident in the fact that they are not real. =)
If that makes me crazy, then hell I'll embrace the insanity!
this one really amazes me and freaks me out inside..it didn't actually look like a rabbit..it has 3 or 4 ears..huge teeth and eyes..and really disturbing smile..
to be able to interpret or judge a drawing u must somewhat learn the past and history of the patient and im really curious..wheew..!!!
Perhaps the patient felt troubled by this creature, and drew a circle aroud it as a way to keep it confined, in a symbolic way.
The expression on the face seems both amused and menacing -- perhaps the patient hallucenated a creature who enjoyed being malicious.
Typically, people (adults and children) draw eyelashes to denote femininity.
I think it's a female demon, not a bizare bunny.