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The alleged statistics in 2004 were as follows:
Everyday there are 3 new Wal-marts built and or opening.
There are 5 Walmarts abandoned every month (with the reminder they are rebuilding elsewhere)
Every month 25-30 historic sites are lost to make room for new Walmarts.
Those my friends are the sad true facts...please don't support Wal-marts
Puddleboy - I understand in many areas Wal-marts have been a blessing, they bring job opporunities to low-income areas and people and provide convenient shopping for those with little to no retail areas. I'll give you that and with gas prices, driving 13 miles is a bit far to go shopping. But trust me when I say that the fact that I can get to 3 different Walmarts with in 5 minutes of each other, not to mention the other numerous retail chains in the vicinity and they have the audacity to try and build a new Walmart backing up to Mount Vernon...I don't think so... By the way our community fought that and we won. However, as a Pressie, I would rather be spared any more "convenience" in our community and instead keep the open space and historic structures. Walmart needs to pick and choose proper locations instead of trying to become a conglomerate business.
Also just because something is deemed a National Monument or is placed on the National Register doesn't mean it can't be touched. It just means it's importance to American history, planning and studies is taken into account more so, than say if the govenment decided they wanted to put an overpass through your house. Here comes emminent domain. No historic structure is 100% safe in our country. Unfortunately not only do the developers trying to get the Gettysburg lands and other National Battlefields have money and government officials in their pockets, they also have very good excuses, although to many it seems feeble, it strikes a chord: "You can't save every battlefield." In other words, if as a preservationist you claimed this is where a major Civil War/Revolutuionary War/Spanish American war was fought, their reply is. "The wars were fought all over American soil that doesn't mean every blade or tree should be saved." Also you approach the question, "What determines an important battle vs. a non-important one? How much blood had to be spilled? Is one man's blood more important than anothers?" Deveolopers will also argue the fact that at Gettysburg the "actual surrender" "the most important aspect of the battle" didn't really take place on the battelfield...so what is the importance of saving it. Even the brightest and smartest Preservationists have trouble answering these questions. We do have answers, but the developers are always ready with new questions. I know, I have dealt with them may times in ARB meetings, court and congressional hearings...They are tough...
Marty - We have the same problem here with Bull Run and the Fredericksburg battlefields. Land is money, plain and simple to them. My personal favorite was Disney trying to build "Historic Disney Land" here on the Bull Run battlefield...A place "where history comes to life" You could ride the Underground Railroad, have tea with the Washingtons, and fight in a laser version Civil War battle among other entertainment. In fact I still have a protest sign with George Washington wearing a Mickey Mouse hat...
Alright I'm stepping off Lynne's soapbox now...again
There are construction trailers down by Rt. 65 near the old water treatment plant and powerhouse where it seems that someone from the construction company stays 24/7. The police are on high alert now since on Saturday they told me someone got in one of the big Terex earthmovers and drove it into the side of a building. The cops also told me something about the EPA being a pain about people coming to the site because of the asbestos all through the main building.
Now I wonder who saw us and reported us? Of course, it was pretty stupid of me to park my Jeep right by the front door of the place, but I figured we wouldn't encounter any workers, being that it was a Sunday afternoon. Now I have to wonder who the other guy that I encountered in the cafeteria building was? He was walking around in the ballroom with a younger kid (about 16 I'd guess) and they were taking photos. We talked to him for a few minutes about the place and he seemed to be irritated that we were talking to him, so we left him alone after a while. We wondered back into Reed Hall and that is when I saw a policeman looking in my Jeep out in front. We went back out the back and walked around the building and back up to the front to see what was up. That's when we saw the two policemen and the superintendant. The superintenant seemed to be a bit of an asshat, but he never said anything to us. When he walked away to take a phone call, the cops really started to lighten up. I guess they had to look like they were doing something about people trespassing, so while the superintendant was listening, the cops were harder on us. BTW--the cops never called me or sent anything in the mail so I guess they dropped the whole thing. But when we were done talking to the cops, the guy and the kid we were talking to earlier came walking around the corner of the building and Mr. Asshat superintendant spotted them right away and told the cops there were more people and they went over to talk to them. I don't know what ever happened to those two because we got the hell out of there before we could get into any more trouble.
The tow truck driver was real cool with us. The cops told me that it was going to cost me $40 for the truck showing up and I had to pay the driver now or work something out with him. The driver told me to follow him down to a coin operated car wash down on Rt. 65 and just pay to have the mud washed off of his truck. Only cost me $2 so I was happy.
As for people going up there and screwing with the construction equipment, it is really stupid of the equipment operators to leave all the equipment unlocked. I work for a contractor and I had keys on me that day that would have operated most of the equipment on the site. We always lock our equipment if it is left on a jobsite unattended. Contractor keys will work in all equipment of the same equipment manufacturer, as you probably already know, so there are many keys floating around that will operate the equipment. I have a CAT key that would have started the CAT 330 behind Reed Hall with the claw on it. Looked like somebody already got into it and tore into Reed Hall in the back from a window on the 3rd story down to the window below it on the 2nd story. I know how to operate that machine because we have a 307B and 312BL that I have to run sometimes and the 330 is the same, just bigger. At least I have enough brains to know that it is extremely dangerous to just drive an excavator up to a 4 story building and try to tear it down. If a large section of the wall would have broke away, the cab of that machine would have been crushed, most likely killing the operator. It seems like that CAT machine with the claw attachment on it was there to pick up large trees to load them on trucks, not tear down 4 story buildings. Good God, that could get real ugly real quick.
Word to the wise: do not EVER go onto a construction site and mess with or attempt to mess with equipment/machines that you find there. You very well could get yourself or someone else nearby killed or seriously injured. Not to mention that many of these machines cost into the hundreds of thousands of dollars. It might seem cool at the time, but it's not a lot of fun to lose control of a machine that weighs several times more than your house.
The superintendent of the job was there due to the fact that someone earlier in the day stole a dump truck and wrecked it pretty good, and let it roll down a hill and in to a building and fall half way through it. They did something like $20, 000 damage to it.
I know there was a few other workers on the move there that day working up on the hill behind the dining hall. I think what happened was the superintendent saw someone and he told the cops to start to question people because of what had happened.
I have no problem with people exploring buildings as long as there not causing damage to them, or the site that they are on. That is what gets everyone in trouble and the cops involved.
B T the last part of you comment about the messing around with the equipment could not be any truer.
I haul and operate a verity of different equipment for different companies and they all due different thing with there equipment at the end of the day. Some just shut them off and some due a little more creative things with them. I don't want to say because I don't want to give anybody any ideas.
The bottom line is don't mess with the equipment, don't destroy the site or the buildings. If you do get stopped corporate with the people who stopped you. There just doing there job, and if you want to go back make sure you then get permission the whom ever is in charge.
this is happening in my neighborhood right at this moment. i fucking hate walmart.
This really sucks, what a neat old, albiet, I suppose, haunted, building.
>sigh< Everything was so important at one time, now to be returned to dust. :(
This is my first post.
Wonderful photography by the way! :)
Enough of that.
The building in this photo appears to be waiting. You would think it enjoyed having people pick around inside it! This was an awesome angle to take this shot from.
The buildings were in extremely sorry shape, and the asbestos wasn't very safe either.. I hate to say it, but vandals had a hand in it, as well as Mother Nature, and the people who salvaged the doors, windows, etc.
It still saddens me to see the old girl go.
http://www.pittsburghl...region/s_501554.html
But it's even worse when historic, architecturally-beautiful sites like this get mowed over for the greedy, consumerist pigs.