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Wash Room

Wash Room

The stalls, bathtub, and creepy window to the main hall. There are no anchors or holes in the wall for curtains or anything like that.
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Motts, what are the grey strap like things hanging on the back of the tub?
You can guess...
Probably a harness for patients who won't sit still for it!
Or a harness for someone who wanted to take a bath and didn't have the trunk support to do it without slipping under the water. It is MUCH easier to shower an uncooperative person than to try to put them in the tub, and I can speak from very wet personal experience about this. :-)

Many clients, especially those with cerebral palsy or other motor impairments, enjoy the bathtub because the warm water helps loosen their overworked muscles and allows them some actual relaxation and a temporary release from the cruel hands of gravity. That's why hydrotherapy was used as much as possible with this particular group of folks. Not cold water, as someone suggested earlier, because that tends to make people less compliant and more irritable than soothing and relaxing warm water.

As an FYI, many places currently use a lot of upright portable privacy screens. I myself prefer curtains and always push for them, but there are ways of putting up privacy screens across the stalls as well. I know that at one point there were problems with clients locking themselves in the stalls if they had solid doors, and folks also sometimes had severe injuries if they lost their balance when getting up from the toilet and hit the door or if they had a seizure and hit the door. As well, if you have a client who engages in fecal smearing or ingestion you need to keep an eye on them - for obvious reasons. And that is just a part of your every day work - they don't pay you extra to clean people who are covered from head to toe with feces - and then brush their teeth as well.

Again, the initial reason for these practices wasn't to degrade and humiliate people, it was the result of minimal funding, overcrowding, and low staffing levels.

As a sidenote, ask your parents and grandparents if they always voted for social welfare spending or if they fought all tax increases. ;-)
thank you for explaining that lynne,

i worked in a nursing home for about five years but have spent most of my time in hospital care. Ive never encountered straps for bathtubs though.
I have a lot of compassion for people with cerebral palsy. Mobility we take for granted is soooo difficult for them. I recommend the movie "My Left Foot," with Daniel Day-Lewis. They used to just treat CP sufferers like they were "idiots." Christy Brown turned out to be a great artist and writer.
Anyway, hydrotherapy, like ECT, could be used therapeutically OR abusively, as it sometimes was.
Straps?? Looks to me like strips of duct tape...yes or no?
Lynne, you've got a lot of great stories!
I KNEW I would eventually run across this somewhere:

http://wwww.shop.com/9403146.phtm
http://www.edmond-wheelchair.com/bath_tub_lifts.htm

Although it is entirely possible that what is pictured in this particular pic is duct tape, they actually use safety straps that look like strips of duct tape in some bathtubs that have lifts.
Yea lynne you may have alot of stories but i belive alot of them untrue. i belive that this picture has the same kind of meaning to the other refering to the washrooms. The "managment" as they call themselves semed to abuse the rights of their paitents
Well, thank you, Rachel. I haven't been called a liar in many, many years. :-)
How this goes from hygene to abuse bothers me, however I would tend to "belive" Lynne knows what she's talking about.
At least Lynne can spell....
Aw, shucks! [Kisses Grifspop and Twug]
Where is my kiss?
XXXXXXXXX
OOOOOOOO

Better?
XOXOXO Back at cha, Lynne
Love you too, Lynne!
Im sorry lynne i wasnt calling you a liar. I was just stating my opinion. I am sorry for anything that may have offended you.
Hey everyone, I've just become very enamored with this site... Lynne... I love your posts. I work at a school with many kids who are Multiply Disabled, and Severely involved... In English, they can't speak at all, and it is very hard to move thier Body's. The facilities we use for bathing the children are very very private, but I can honestly say that if the building were left untouched for 10 years and then someone stumbled upon the bathroom, it may appear that there was much less privacy given to the students. With someone who is severly Disabled, or Mentally Ill, the facilities in which you bathe them can't be the standard stall door with a stall that is 3 ft by 4 ft. The privacy is more the responsibility of the person doing the bathing to make sure that no one intrudes. As for the windows opening into the hall, that I have no defense for.
A bathtub with seat belts?
uuurgh...what the hell is that in that darkness? old toilets???? Arrrghhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would love a bath tub with seatbelts for all those times I fell asleep in it and slid in only to wake up panicing because my face was under water. Yeah I believe it would be to help people that had problems staying upright. Showers would be much easier then restraining them in a tub. It just makes more sense. If people were abusing people because they caused them more work why would they not use the easiest way to wash them and use the shower?
Lynne I love reading your posts, you seem intellegent and you seem to have a lot of knowlege (I can not spell worth a crap) and you are extreamly informative. Gotta love that. Also you make me laugh some times like the rest that seem to be regular posters
i dont understand the use for the hall way windows eigther i mean ... if it was for the staff so they could observe the children as they bathed... then why didnt they just sit in with them ?? i think it was just i dont know ... it just seems so creepy .. wouldnt that encourage sexual thing's among patients? i mean am i wrong for thinking patients seeing patience nude would encourage inapropriate behavior? any comments or ideas email me at justicedreams24@aol.com
spidergirl, would you just stop with the patient sexual abuse thing?! If you're that riveted by molestation, go watch Law and Order SVU. Workers in places like this were very busy, and what if they had to leave the room while supervising a bathing child? It's a lot easier to watch them through a window than worry about them drowning.
Motts was it a mirror window or could you see in from the hallway?
It was a normal window, one could see through it from both sides.
I'd rather be able to see my patients thorugh a window than either
A: keep opening the door to check on them every two minutes and disturb their bathing time, or
B: Stand fretting that they were drowning

Get a grip girl!
I dont quite understand the concept of the window for safety if someone were to drown you wouldnt be right there to help them,there for with a disability-youd want to be right ttere to asist,I would never leave a child unattened in a bath or in a pool. Thats a accident waiting to happen.
I am sure it doesn't apply to this facilty, but I have seen moveable partitions on wheels and such to provide privacy without the permanacy of installing fixtures that could be in the way in some instances. At first it was amusing but what is the fascination with restraints, deprivation of privacy, etc?I understand the history, but the constant repetition of these themes makes me wonder.
One possible reason for the widow to the hall might be, and I stress might be. Kids at state schools despite retardation, have a lot in common with"normal" kids. They like to hide. The little boogers can be really creative about it too. The window could be for the cursory search most places do, to make sure nobody's in the tub, floating or otherwise. It would allow the staff to come back and search more carefully, knowing that no one is drowned in a tub.

As for privacy, find a spot in any hospital that's truly private. Screens and such have uses and we do use them when possible. They can also be a hinderance in a setting that needs to be secure. If we miss a suicide. or an attempted suicide because of a privacy screen, there's a major problem there. Plus a wheeled privacy screen can be used as a weapon bits, and pieces of them can be swallowed.

Restraint is one of the tings we do when a situation or a person gets so far out of control they become a danger to themselves and others. These galleries depict technology from the past. The problem of seclusion and restraint is an ongoing problem in the 21st century. There is a nationwide initiative to reduce and eliminate retraints, and such where ever possible. Also to find ways to eliminate them where ever possible. It's a problem that's been there for a century or more.
Common sense spoken by someone who has been there. Good on ya, Big Ed!

At one place where I worked one of our fellows wandered off and fell asleep in an elevator and was missing for hours. Didn't know how to open the elevator door back up once he got inside and he was nonverbal, so he just took a nap. Luckily, no problems occurred, but it was a frantic 2 hour search and when we opened the elevator, we woke him from his nap and he glared at us for disturbing his peaceful slumber. :-)

When our folks get lost or hide, many of them are unwilling or unable to respond.

Another time, when I was a special ed teacher, a student in another class went on a short hiking trip with his class, wandered off, and was difficult to locate because he was echolalic (echolalia = repeating the words you hear others say, also called "parroting") so when they called his name he also called his name, and it just sounded like another searcher calling his name. The event ended without tragedy, but trying to locate an individual with a handicapping condition who has disappeared is a lot dicier than you might otherwise think (even if they WANT to be found).
Lynne, I am in awe of you. I have a second-hand knowledge of the medical profession through my now deceased mother. She spent her life as an RN helping those who needed it. The most part of her career was at a VA hospital tending to people who served our country. Upon my many visits to her job I saw things that were (from my perspective) disturbing. Restraints come to mind immediately. People who have mental disabilities (as was explained to me by my mother) are far more likely to hurt themselves or other patients/ staff than be hurt intentionally by the staff.
We cannot assume that all human beings are inherently evil or harbor ill-intent by glancing at a photo. As for myself, I find it absurd that a window would be installed just for the sole purpose of voyeurism.
Lynne, I would consider it an honor to hear from you. (goldenj@bossiercity.org)
Hi Lynne,
Echolalic? I've never heard of that before, how interesting. You should really write a book about your life, seriously! You care so much for these people and have had so many experiences. I think if you kind of "opened the door" and showed outsiders that most of these people are completely harmless many people would gain a better understanding. I've learned tons from reading your posts.

I hope you had a happy Thanksgiving. :-)
Lynne's comment about Americans being stingy about paying taxes makes an important point: our society as a whole should take responsibilty for the abuse of clients placed in the hands of poorly paid, overworked providers. It is difficult work and the provider is only human, as are we all.
Some of the staff could possibly have a...perverted side and wished to WATCH them bathe....


Most likely though, it was used to analyze their behavior and actions, etc.
Ok, what is the shadow in the right stall. Anybody wanna take a guess?
No way i don't even dare to look. It freaks me out.

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