Adult Crib

Pardon my ignorance, but I didn't know there were Adult Cribs,, that just creeps me out.

This is disturbing. What kind of adults were placed in "cribs"? Looks more like a crude cage to me. Like these people were treated like animals in a zoo.

If you have large people who don't have control of their bodies and who do not understand the concept of danger, there is great potential for them falling out of bed and getting injured. When they are in bed you need some sort of barrier to prevent them from falling out.

If, like most institutions, you had little money, you had several choices. You could strap them in so they wouldn't fall out (restraint! Eeeks!), you could lay everyone on the floor on mattresses so when they rolled over they wouldn't have far to go (how callous! How barbaric!), you could make wooden sides for the beds (but then the person in the bed couldn't see anything but the ceiling), or you could go for a large crib which at least offered some way of seeing what went on. I think there would have been equal criticisms had they chosen ANY of these options.

Again, it's easy to be critical of the situation if you aren't aware of the cultural views at the time. People with handicaps were sent away because they were considered "incurable," families were strongly encouraged to leave them behind, the state received very small amounts of money for their care, and the staff were paid outrageously low salaries and were generally treated like grunts. If it wasn't for the group of underpaid but dedicated and caring staff who kept these folks alive, even if they had to fight management and other staff who didn't feel likewise, many of these folks wouldn't be alive today (and there are MANY people still alive today who lived in institutions when they were at their most crowded peaks in the 60s and 70s). There were also courageous families who stood up for their loved ones in these places and fought for more money for better care and for money for community placements because they didn't receive any government assistance if they tried to keep their loved ones at home.

And just try to care at home for a large person with a severe to profound handicapping condition without support from others, and do it day after day after week after month after year. And don't get too comfortable and try to sleep through the night because your loved one DOESN'T understand danger and something terrible could happen if your attention wandered or you slept too soundly. This was not a black and white "institutions = bad, staff = bad, families = bad," but a mixture of what was believed at the time.

I challenge anyone who is critical of what happened back then to have been part of the culture at the time to have acted much differently, especially with the lack of support they would have gotten. This is NOT a defense of how things used to be - they were atrocious - but this IS an attempt to educate people on why it happened so that it doesn't happen again. The budget is getting tighter and institutional budgets are getting squeezed, as are the budgets for community and home programs for folks with disabilities.

I hope all of you who have expressed concern about what you have seen on Motts' site are contacting your local and state governments and asking for increased funding for people with disabilities. Otherwise saying "tut tut" and being outraged about what happened in the past - while ignoring that it is funding that prevents this from happening today in your very own community - means you are also turning a blind eye and are part of the problem.

[OK - sorry - jumping back down off soapbox again.]

Now a Utica crib - that makes me gag and shiver. :-(

*cheers Lynne*

Lynne, I just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to explain stuff like this to us. I've learned so much about institutions from reading your comments--they're always interesting to read and sometimes (as here) make me think about the whole situation in a different light.

As creepy as this may sound often times one would think of a crib as being more secure if one of the poele suffer an alment was childish it may have been a comfort to have the bars spereating you from the outside world.

I think Lynn should write a book about this subject, past and present included. It would educate a lot of people!

i have a newly-diagnosed mental illness and have been hospitalized 3 times in the past three years to help figure out the best medicinal course. i have a FABULOUS doctor who always had me stay where he worked so no one else would work with me and potentially @#**! things up. i have always felt safe. however, i have seen "clients" put through like chattle and i know--having discussed this at length with my doc--that, if these cribs were available (and not frowned upon), hospitals would gladly use them. this is my first time visiting this site. although i find all these images horrifying, the adult crib was indeed the scariest. i have been able to come home after a week, unlike more people than i ever imagined, and in that week i encountered many people who have no support systems t speak of and find themselves stuck in these "modern" hospitals that are still as gut wrenchingly violent and misguided as when they were first conceived. i ramble on...thank you for this site.

Wow...a utica crib sounds like what I am looking for! I have a disabled daughter who sleep walks and climbs out her window at night. She's very strong and the last "politically correct" bed I got for her (which they currently use in hospitals for brain damaged patients) she tore to shreads. It's scary for people who have no options and need to sleep sometime. I can't sleep in bed with her forever just to be sure she's still here in the morning..........

I am happy that the goverment now gives assistance to people who take care of thier family at home... i have a 3 year old son who had a bleed inside of his head (size of an aprocott) they had to cut part of his brain to remove the blood and becuse of this he is blind, and developmentaly delayed. I think this would have ended him up in a place like this. He has come along way through tons of therapy... and by age 7 he should be "normal" but this would not be possible if it were not for the govermnet. they pick up the tab that my insurance does not cover ( insurance pays 80% ) between the bleed and the bone marrow transplant my son has racked up over 6 million in medical bills . I dont think all these instatutions started out bad.... i think it comes from being under staffed and lack of funding that caused this... im sure working in a place like this you start out with good intentions ... but after all the stress and being over worked it gets to you..

When I was 7 in 1980, I had heart surgery, and was put in a Oxygen tent, a clear plastic tent which was placed over a cot like the one shown above, and had oxygen pumped into it.

THRiLL KiLL - how interesting! Bet you are involved in tons of therapy! How is your little one coming along - do you have him in any early schooling programs yet?

It certainly looks like a monstrous thing. But without medication, what were the palatable options?

being a wife to someone who cannot control himself ,his muscles,his bodily functions,and has the thought process of a small child,would really like to know where i can get one of these utica cribs,so please if anyone knows how i can find one for my husband please let me know.

sincerly a concerned
wife kara

that is an odd request.. not trying to be funny or mean.

rk

Ok, my husband put in that last comment from "kara christoffersen." Don't let him fool you, he has a fetish for being locked up ! hahah
Seriously, there is a whole lifestyle of Adult Babies (adults who like to wear diapers and dress as babies) who pay LOTS of money for cribs built custom made like the Utica cribs. I mean over a thousand bucks EACH.

It's OK. I have sent their MOTHERS to time out. And WITHOUT their suppers. >:-(

Actually, the item pictured above is not a Utica crib. That is just a large standard hospital crib. A Utica crib (named for the place it was designed - the "New York State Lunatic Asylum at Utica") was designed in the 1880s. It was apparently designed for use with manic, agitated patients who needed rest and could not/would stay in their beds to recover. As with most things, it was purportedly developed with the best of intentions, since there were few other options except chains and dungeons, but frankly, I'd take the chains or dungeons over a Utica crib ANY day. [shakes head, sweats, and trembles at the thought]

Even assuming this was the reason it was initially designed, it quickly became seen as an effective way to keep violent or manic patients restrained without using chains, and that was a good PR ploy back then. Because the main way (only way?) of containing people with mental illness up until then had been to chain them to the wall or bed, hospitals fought to look more humane and compassionate, and wanted alternatives to chaining people up. That's where the straightjackets came from. The hospitals were very proud that they could use a straightjacket on a patient, which kept them from hurting themselves and others, yet many still had the freedom to walk around. Hospitals with 1/2 their clientele in straightjackets called themselves "restraint-free", and I suppose compared with chaining them to the wall it IS a step up. Sort of . . . kinda sorta . . .

http://www.uihealthcare.com/dep...stik/utica.html
http://www.indiana.edu/%7Emedhist/dwyer.htm

Also, check out the interesting comments about the Utica crib here:
http://www.omh.state.ny.us/omh...archive.htm

I didn't share personal information. I was just saying that there are still adult sized cribs in use by some people. *sigh*

They still use those cribs nowdays...nothing wrong with them, better than the matress on the floor, or being strapped down. It's a crib, no differance than a bed, only an expensive safe way...it's not like those who have the illness can be watched 24/7

the utica crib looks very form fitting - like you wouldn't be able to turn over or change positions in it at all. just lie on your back for hours staring at the heavy wooden slats. i'm with Lynne - i would prefer being chained up but left with more room to move about....maybe.

Here's how beds that serve the same function currently look, now that technology has improved a little. In 50 to 100 years we will call these cruel and barbarous. :-)

http://www.sleepsafebed.com/

Lynne - thank you for what you are doing to educate people about mental illness. The Dept. of Human Resources, in its wisdom, is trying to close down the psych hospital here. I don't know what is going to happen to some of the people the hospital stabilizes on a regular or semi-regular basis - I guess they'll end up in jail.

I so agree with and appreciate Lynn's comments. Without ever caring for or meeting the types of patients that were in these facilities, and are in group homes now, it is easy to think of many of these methods as cruel. Tile may look unfriendly, but in the home i work in we have a low functioning client who picks the wallpaper off the wall and eats it, picks holes in the furniture and pulls the stuffing out . . . and eats it. Perhaps you see where I am going with this. Though these facilities are outdated in alot of ways i think they likely were better equipped to handle some patients than we are today. Putting patients in home settings sounds great, but just how well does fecal matter come out of upholstered furniture?! Not well, I can say from experience.

Lynne.

well my son is coming along good.. we just had his centeral line removed this week... and last feb (he was born on the 14th :) ) he started pre-school at age 3. he gets vision, PT, OT,Speach, 2 Sped Ed teachers.. thats from the school and then we also take him to PT,OT and speach (private clinics) he gets home schooling due to his still suppresed immune system

its sorta like someone hit the reset button on him, he is about a year to 18 months behind his age group.. but he is learning quickly... the only thing slowing his process down is that he is blind..

Dlbeaney@yahoo.com

While surfing the net for an 'adult sized' crib, for my 5 year old foster son, this pic is all I can find...
The traditional medical beds, the sides are too low. He's able to sit up, lean over and fall out.
But I do get some good idea's for the carpenter! That's all the matters right? He's gets the beautfiul bed that I envision. :)

Thanks Lynn!
While scrolling I've now seen your link and will certainly using the pics to design my foster sons brand new bed! I'm thrilled!
:)

Kewl! That's great! :-)

Eve and THRiLL KiLL, here is a great resource for parents who have family members with disabilities:

http://www.eparent.com/

lynne u have helped all these people - educating and putting in practice (eve etc). thanks lynne - i have learnt so much. aftyer reading some of your comments i agree with someone else who said u should put this into a book, or something. thanks again.

In the old movie' please don't eat the daisies' they use a wooden playpen that is like a cage. Even though people would yell child abuse today. But wouldn't a safe child still be better than a dead child that was injured in an accident because of lack of supervision?

What's so freaky about these? So what if they were used for people with problems, (no offense intended, just can't think of the word)
I think these things rock! I just got one a few months ago. I am an adult baby, and I have never felt so secure, you have no idea. I am tellin ya, you need to try one out!

Having worked in a state school/hospital for 16 or more years I am appalled by this "Adult Crib" we have not a do not use such things. When we have a client that falls or something to that nature we put up side rails on hie/her regular bed and we have a staff person sit one to one. Until we get permission to put up the Rails since it is a restriction of movement. After the railing is installed on thier bed we have 5 minute checks or still sitting one to one if need be.

Yes - Lynne:
Sad, But true. I had an Aunt who worked in a Mental Institute
(early 60's) and even with "modern treatment techniques"
it was a heart wrenching experience even at the best of times...

I am distressed to see so many comments by people interested in the use of a Utica crib for their loved ones. The Utica Crib was a device used in the 1800's to lock mental patients into their beds at night. It is outlawed now. If I was ever locked into bed at night the experience alone would drive me crazy. Get some window locks or door locks for your daughters room but DO NOT restrain her to her bed. What are you thinking?

Hello to everyone reading this. I am not sure what this website is about and landed here looking for an adult bed for my Father who has Parkinsons Disease.
He is strong as an Ox and the strongest caregiver that we had hired is barely able to pry him from the safety rails or anything else he has a grip on.
When he was 59 he ran The Paul Mason Marathon and continued running 6 to 8 years after that. He worked at United Technologies Center "UTC") which is now "Chemical Systems Division". I did a search for the keywords "Parkinsons" and "UTC" on the search engines and found that a great deal of the results were obituaries. The links took me to the obituaries where they went on about the gentlemen and women that worked at UTC and they had died from Parkinsons disease. Coincidence? Probably not since it seems that "Perchlorate" is linked to Parkinsons. I just wanted to bring some reason to light pertaining to these types of restraint beds. If my Father was able to get out of bed at night we would surely be going to the emergency room that same night for a concusion, broken ribs, neck or some other "grave" condition as a result of not taking the necessary precautions using a bed or restraint belt similar to something like what you see. The last time we let him walk alone he broke three ribs and went to the emergency room and had to stay in the hospital for three days. That's alot of money even if it is a co-pay not to mention that it has to be painful. The three previous times he was left to walk or unrestrained he needed stitches over the eye and it swole up like a golfball all three times. Leaving him unrestrained would be as silly as a race car driver with no seatbelt or helmut. Necessary precautions are taken for the activity and its surroundings taking place. My Father was in the Navy for 22 years and taught physics while there and set up helicopter schools all over the United States. He is alive as I write, LOVES chocolate cake, ice cream, peanuts and calling anyone who thinks they have authority "Montgomery Ward". He has a great sense of humor, laughs and cracks jokes daily and wouldn't be enjoying these things were it not for safety restraints. The have a bed called "SomaSafe Enclosure" http://www.vivaxmedica...omasafeenclosure.htm which is less intimidating for those that are faint of heart and haven't seen "The Big Picture".
Until you have ben faced with taking care of someone 24 hours a day of course you wouldn't be able to see "What we were thinking" and hopefully or not) you know know that it is out of Love and that we are not "Satanists". Besides, the 12 disciples of Christ are really not physical manifestations at all, they are our emotions.

Bryan, you are cooler than cool! Thanks for adding your input so that people can see this is real life. I have a lot of respect for you for dealing with your dad. Even though you obviously love him, that's a nerve-wracking way to live. You are aces in my book!
Thanks, also, for the great reference for the "SomaSafe Enclosure" bed. I am always looking for new adaptive equipment to try out to make life easier for our folks. :-)

Bryan, I second that you are cooler thatn kool!
Way to go! Thank you for sharing!

Bryan you MUST enlighten ~me to what this statement, I'm ever so interested now.
"Besides, the 12 disciples of Christ are really not physical manifestations at all, they are our emotions."

Hi Lynne and ~ME : )

You two are double cool!
Though I am not Religious I have enlightened myself that the Bible may be a handbook for mental awareness. The many disciples if you look at them could conceivably be personalities within us. Their is the bad disciple that betrayed Jesus and John the Baptist which was the Faithful persona etcetera... The Devil just may be the bad guy in us. Heaven is a thought away and so is Hell. It's all a matter of perspective in my bookno pun)!
If you look at any of the writings in the Bible you very well could establish that many if not every situation that had taken place could be perceived in our real life happenings in this day and age. I think that whoever wrote the Bible had a dep understanding of the human psych and was a great story teller. I believe Heaven and Hel are right here right now on Earth and each individual is capable of living in one or the other. The "Almighty" is just that, the Almighty. The unseen force that is ultimately decisive about just what you are capable of. The useen force that drives your being. GOD. Then that would make each and every one of us Jesus. The children of God. The child of the Almighty. Maybe a far stretch but it works for me. That's not to say that there is not an afterlife and that a real being such as God exists. I just can't see us all in this universe being as intelligent as we are without some great force having brought us about. And if there wasn't a God to begin with, with our capabilities who's to say that we haven't created one that could exist now? Who knows, but what a great story. Onto the bed enclosures I have found the link I was looking for, here tis' http://store.devinemedical.us/8003g.html

http://store.devinemedical.us/bed-canopy.html

Vaya Con Dios !~

Appologies for off topic, the above links in my previous post are really great for adult cribs and I am looking for a link for another bed I saw that has a wetting and pressure alarm ( alarm goes off when the weight of the person leaves the bed or the bed is wet), this can help in comforting for the individual in the bed and reducing bed sores. Great site Motts, thanks for the great pictures!

http://www.healiohealt...p;specific=jncmrpnne
http://www.consumermed...om/Convalescent.html
http://www.seekwellnes...evention/devices.htm
http://www.bedmonitors..._alarm_equipment.htm
http://www.techforltc....e=11&careissue=1

Lynne, those links are what I was loking for! Thanks!

Great! They are pretty cool, aren't they?

It seems that the least people can do is make this "crib" more comfortable!

The creepiest thing is how this site that I find so educating and artistic deteriorates into blurbs about peoples's sexual fetishes and torture fantasies, THAT's the creepiest part - sorry.

Well all I have to say is....wow...just wow to all these comments

poor poor kids

just how the he** can anyone wear these
restraints, they're sent away & at the flip of
a coin it is weather you're free or restrained
to a bed, being an eternal prisoner.

please write an E-mail to me reguarding this.

Thank you Lynn for posting this valuable information.
My daughter, who has cerebral palsy, has grown out of her crib, but can wiggle past normal bedrails. The Sleep Safe bed is exactly what we need for her!

i wear diapers and love sleeping in a crib yet i have little money and was wondering if their was anywher i could find a crib for low cost?

Lynne,

I have been a longtime luker on these boards and have read many of your posts and have to applaud you and sadly agree with you. My grandmother suffered from senile dementia for about 5 yrs prior to her death( she had also had ongoing psychatric issues due to childhood abandonment) and my parents and cared for her at home, because at that time we had the health and the resources to do so. Now this was a little 80 lb 4'11 woman, but in her dementia she had it in her head that she could walk and tried to get out of bed, injuring herself, so to our sadness we had to basically enclose the bed. Seeing this picture brings that back with poingnat intensity, but even dealing with this for a short period of time, I can sometimes see why it had to be done.
All I can hope is that those who were residents/patients here are either at peace or living better-quality lives, and that they are rememberd.

CF

Nice to meet you btw

Lynne,

On July 13, 2006 a message posted by ABgirl mentionned that she got one crib like the one that is shown. I wonder were she was able to have one. More info about suplliers would be great or if it possible to contact ABGirl to know more about it would be great.

There is a person who makes all kinds of cribs AB Boy it's name is http://www.babyapparels.com He also made things for the CSI shows.

I have to say, although the posts are old, I do applaud many of the post(ers). As a parent of a developmentally disabled child, and an employee of a MR/DD group home, I have to agree with many of the posts. However, do not think that the government or social security administration of any other governmental/charitable organization helps all families with physically disabled children...my son is now 15 years old, almost as tall as I am 5'5", over 120 pounds, and can be as stiff as a board when I lift him (yes, I did say lift him / no hoyer or sara lifts in my house, unfortunately they cost $$$), because even in this day and age, families are expected to be self-reliant. All the touchy-feely groups out there who claim to help, aren't any help at all unless you drug the he** out of your kid (mental issues?), or you are already on welfare. For working families with no desire to live off the dole, even a little help means a huge difference. I'm right now just trying to get my insurance company to pay for an upgraded seating system for my son's wheelchair (he's been too large for it for over 2 years now, and he's still growing). When these institutions were closed down, the funding they received was supposed to be ear-marked for families caring for their loved-ones rather than dumping them in a home, school, etc ( gee-the government isn't using the money for what they claimed it was for? Boy, that has never happened before!). Imagine....filling out paperwork for a grant, begging for money which other people are also begging for....the treatment of the disabled and their families by society still isn't what it should be. Don't judge the former resident's families too harshly, they did only what they could at the time (no grant money then).

I've seen more disturbing cribs.

Wow! this is a great discussion board sort of thing. And lynn, you are doing a wonderful trying to educate everyone. I just wish that there were more people out there like you. Keep up the good work. And, seriously, you really should think about writing a book, or multiple books, on the subject.

I also share in educating people about the caregiving situation. I feel so strongly about keeping loved ones home no matter the reason. I purposely work from home as an entrepreneur owning my own computer business just so I can care for sick friends or anyone who needs me. I do it for free because I hate institutions so much. I've seen unspeakable things occur in institutions--things that would cause someone not to sleep for years. Check out my blog at www.keepthemhome.blogspot.com. There, i try to educate even the most perplexed of individuals so they will not use not knowing what to do as an excuse to throw away their loved ones in an institution.

I disagree with institutions for any reason. I've cared for grown men with the minds of babies. There are ways to handle it when they act out and things like that. I guess, some who are ignorant would not know what to do and just throw them away as if they were disposable. I don't know about you: but, even if I did not know something, I'd fight to do the right thing--I'd research, ask questions to anyone I could not caring if they got mad at me, I'd be dedicated, and do what I could to keep that person home with me.

As for the subject on wanting to find an adult crib as some have inquired about here, I'd like to direct you to soe sites where you can order them.

The first site is at www.babyapparels.com/ I believe this was originally made for the craz people called adult babies: however, you can get cribs and changing tables for those who are disabled. When I inquired about the furnature, they were very nice and polite. They are worth doing business with. It's great that there is a company like this so the disabled can still stay at hoe. I've told many about this option so they will not throw loved ones in some sort of home.

The next site is at www.shilog.com and is a medical wholeseller. The biggest crib that can be purchased there is a youth crib that is seventy-two inches long. This could fit a grown woman if she is not extremely tall. Possibly of about five/four or five/five.

I hope i've helped.

As has been said by others, Cribs are not necessarily 'bed prisons' but are often for the benefit of the user. After all, a grown adult with normal mobility could easily climb out of one if they wished and so it is more likely that adults with mobility problems who were at risk of falling out the bed were given cribs to sleep in. I work with adults with disabilities and two of the people I work with have beds which are like modern day cribs with wooden rail sides which are slid up once the person is in bed to prevent them falling out. Another lady I work with has a special symmetry sleep bed with strategically placed pillows to prevent her moving in her bed so she literally stays in the one position all night (on her back). It sounds like torture to us but it is very important for her. Not all devices from yesteryear were for torture! :-)

Last year I had surgery on my spine. I was not able to bend for ages. The bed in hospital had rails, which I found very helpful. I could pull myslef up or down the bed, use them to roll over, and to sit up to feed. The crib is not too far removed from my hospital bed, and it may have been equally useful for disabled patients to have something to get hold of.

I work in a facility with a crib bed in use. It is used for patient safety as this particular patient tends to throw himself out on the floor and even w/mats at the bedside he ends up getting hurt. During the day he is currently able to walk with help and will sit in a chair w/supervision. At night he is restless and moves spastically and ends up throwing himself out on the floor; bed rails do not help as he ends up just hurting himself on the rails. He appears to like the crib bed as it gives him a sense of a safe environment, he goes into it willingly every night and comes out smiling in the morning. In health care as in every other facet of life we should not make blanket statements until you know the whold situation. What may appear as cruelty to you may actually give someone a sense of safety! That seems to be the problem with many such things that should be based on the individual instead of trying to solve all problems with the same solution; doesn't work!

I have to agree with ~me...
By: me The creepiest thing is how this site that I find so educating and artistic deteriorates into blurbs about peoples's sexual fetishes and torture fantasies, THAT's the creepiest part - sorry.

No need to apologize, you are not alone.

I do think it is way cool though that a few people who really needed a resource found it here and were able to find information and had some enlightening stories to tell. I hope they come back to see all of Mr Motts awesome photography too!

Of course if they saw the "

By: diaper lover i wear diapers and love sleeping in a crib yet i have little money and was wondering if their was anywher i could find a crib for low cost?"

they may have pushed their chair back from the PC and said "WOW that was one wierd site"....LOL

Thats somewhat bizarre. But I can see the use of it. Still, that'd look awkward walking into a room with adult cribs back when it was still up and about.

bayridge, I totally agree with you. I thought I'd come back to this site to see if any new people commented. And, i saw your comment. I couldn'tagree with you more.

It proves to show you that people are trying to understand adult cribs and their use. I just published an article on Associated Content titled; "A Safe and humane Way to Contain Your Mentally Challenged Loved One". Many found it to be quite helpful. Feel free to go to the site at www.associatedcontent.com and type that title in the search box if you'd like to see it. Perhaps, you could tell me if I could add some things. I'm thinking of making a series on the whole thing to serve as a helpful resource for caregivers. Take care.

Feel free to contact me if you'd like. My email is at waldorfpc@gmail.com. It is my business email: so its checked regularly. I hope to hear from you

lynn, i have looked through evrerything on this site so far for the past 3 hours in descending chronological order and either i have drunk enough beer or i've become amazed at your lack of spelling errors enough so to warrant praise on your behalf. it's refreshing to see such level-headed, intelligent, respectful comments on a thread. thank you for your knowledge and insight on such topics. my sister has epilepsy and it's nice to come across someone who can respect and advocate disabled and disadvantaged people and do so without overly demonizing anyone.

Some of you seem to think this is disturbing? Ever see someone in four point restraints? Ever see what some people have done to warrant four point restraints? I have. More disturbing I feel. This crib is par for the time period. Also, it is only within a relatively short period in history that people were put in "cribs" and not jail-like cells. Medievil Europe and even colonial America. I have seen the Asylum at Colonial Willamsburg in Virginia several times. It is actually over the last half-century that the biggest advancements have been made. So in comparison, (aside from confirmed cases of abuse) The adult crib in this picture is quite humane.

Thanks, I'll be here all week.
sorry I only only mention mental illness. I have a rare one so I felt I could speak intelligently on the subject with at least a bit of copability

B

more likd a cagee!

like*

Actually, I think this looks pretty neat and with a good clean up and a fresh mattress, I wouldn't mind sleeping in one now.

yes rather disturbing...

kara sunshine... i was watching a CSI:NY programme about a guy who liked to dress up as a baby... to be honest it kinda freaked me out a bit

Once when me and my family went shopping for new furniture, I laid down on a toddler's bed. That was fun!!!!

ilovehorseyrides must've picked the race car bed ;)

I didnt know there were adult cribs couldnt they just jump them

No STL girl I didn't buy it.I laid down on it cuz I was bored.

ihad a friend that fell and hit her head and she ended up in a bed like it so she would not have to be tied down in her bed she was so smart and good looking/ she would roll around and try to climb out but would just fall back//// she had one bad fall on ice and
its was all over it was like she was not in her body anymore so sad//

it like dam one minut sec and its all over every thing you know is gone

I've noticed a couple other of these on this site, well I'm not sure how much YOU know about it but as far as I know, those are not EXACTLY for adults, they are for small children who are too big for smaller cribs, and who are in extremely dependent states. ie: When I was real young i got into an accident which is too long of a story to get into right now, I had to get Brain Surgery done and I ended up in one of these for a few days...

I have a 15yr old disabled child that is down syndrome and autistic, he wakes up in the middle of the night and will bang his head on the walls all night long. We have purchaed medical helmets for him, but he takes them off. We tried using a soft hospital type hand restraint and he pulled on it all night until his wrist was black & blue, we even tried a top bunk bed and he jumped right out of it. we are afraid one day that he will completely split his head open, Do you have any suggestions? A hopital youth crib costs $4,000.00 and we don't have that kind of money by the way he still wears diapers and sometimes takes them off he will smear the feces all over his rugs. PLEASE HELP ME!!! I'M GOING NUTZ

*cries* its.. just so sad... that adults...were so....messed up....that they...slept in....cribs! *sniffle* Ok i think I'm done...

I was told by my P.C. that this type of bed would be good for me since I toss and turn and fall out of bed. I am disabled and have back/spine and other physical problems. I wear diapers and pull-ups and have for over 15yrs. the type of beds I was shown where like cribs I have been in in hospitals and nursing centers at the request of my doctor with my consent, the others where tent or zipper enclosed like some of the links listed above. I still don't have one at home as I said I would have to think about it. I have a water bed queen size and my care providers solution was to drain enough water from it so I get stuck between the bladder and padded rails. I used to have a regular bed with a railing but as I rolled around the railing would either slide out from under the matress or if she pinned with the dresser to the bed I would roll over it because it wasn't designed for a pillow top matress and I have very sensative nerves and such. I it has been 2yrs since it was recommended and I am still contemplating a adult crib or simular bed at home. I was put in a crib like this when I was in a lock down ward because I requested it and they got one on loan just for me. I felt more secure at night in it at the facility because of my being scared with all the other mental health patents running around. one was even violent but i digress. the doctors and nurses asked why I wanted the crib and why I felt safe in it and I told them that I just felt safe and secure in it. I was there because I had made my third suicide attempt and my family had no longer wished to care for me. I feel that it should be the patients or persons choice if they are able to make the call like me. if not well then what is in their best interest has to be considered. Care givers don't have it easy. I know mine yells at me and has even threatened to spank me for behaving like a bratty child at times. I most likely deserve it LOL. but it is against the rules so she never has. hope this helps put a better perspective on it. dv

My heart goes out to Yolanda regarding her post this past October. Where ever she is, I hope & pray she was able to find the help she so desperately needs.

I saw a wonderfully designed adult crib last year at the St.Joseph County 4H fair (Indiana). It had plexi-glass sides held in by furniture grade cherry wood, the wall could be dropped down for easy exit. The person who made it was donating it to a special care center. Not sure where they got the plans to build it, but I'm sure that it's publicly available.

Very Interesting(:

There is a manufacturer in the south east ( Virginia ?) that makes a commercial wooden bed with Lexan (see through ) panels. It is called a SleepSafe bed (with hospital bedrail height rails) and a SleepSaferR (with taller see-through sides.) It does not have a closed in top. Try 1-866-852-2337.
I work in a group home and have one for a lady who is dually diagnosed with profound mental retardation and OCD. She has CP and cannot stand independently. She is older and has osteoporosis. She tries to get out of bed independently on impulse(due to the OCD) and has fallen and at one point pulled a dresser over on herself.
The SleepSafeR bed is the best thing we ever bought for her. We can elevate the head of the bed to address her GERD and breathing issues and she sleeps well through the night. The staff do 2 hour bed checks and even when she is awake at night, we don't have to worry about her falling out of bed onto the concrete floor.
There is a lady in another group home who also has an adult crib ("Hard" brand manufacturers, I think they are in Buffalo, NY). She is also profoundly retarded with a seizure disorder. She also has severe osteoporosis. She has stood up in bed in the past and fallen to the floor during a seizure and broken her arm. The adult crib is restrictive, it's true, but until we get funding for one-on-one round-the- clock care for profoundly /multiply handicapped adults, this is the kindest,safest thing we can do.
The beds are fabulously expensive and Medicaid pays so little that the local vendors won't even submit them for review. I don't know about private insurance, but if you can justify the use of an adult crib for medical reasons, you may stand a chance for partial reimbursement.
Yolanda,good luck...you are a saint!