Thorazine Dream

I love it when Motts posts something with which I can relate. I'm a molecular biologist, and I study how viruses interact with receptors on the cell surface. I frequently use chlorpromazine in my cell culture experiments because the drug completely impairs one of the uptake pathways that the viruses normally exploit. Being a neuroleptic drug, everyone in the lab that handles it must observe strict safety protocols.

My Mother spent many of my young years away because of a nervous breakdown, I lived the Saprin and thorazine dream. She always hated the movie
snake pit. You made it appear here.

I had the tiniest dose of chorpromazine (Thorazine) once when I was in the hospital. I signed my self in suffering from a nervous burnout (long story), anyway I asked the nurse if there was anything that could help me sleep. She said the only thing authorized in my chart was Thorazine. "Thorazine! ," I exclaimed, "I'm exhausted, not psychotic!" She explained that Thorazine is used in very low doses for general purposes.
Let me tell you, that tiny dose knocked me right out. The next morning I had sweats. After the morning stretch and a bit of breakfast I went back to sleep. Slept like a rock until the early afternoon.

Very interesting picture, I wonder why they had such high cielings with exposed pipes. Im sure due to size, it was hard to heat such a place to start off with.

I agree - they do!

Hmm...I can't picture what a drop ceiling looks like at the moment...do we have any pictures on this site of such?

^nevermind to my above comment, I know now...yes, they are ugly!

if you're not severely psychotic, don't ever let them give you thorizane! it robs you of your personality! you're not even sure what you should be feeling at any given moment! it is the most wretched and unsettling feeling in the world! you become cardboard! have you ever seen long-term thorazine patients? the first thing you notice is the way they walk. at first, you can't put your finger on it. then you realize that they walk almost like zombies. they do not swing their arms. this is called the "thorazine shuffle". and then there are the parkinson's-like effects and the tics! of course, there are some people who need this drug in order to maintain some semblance of composure. but, unless you cannot be in control of yourself without it, do not let them make you take it! i don't know if they do that anymore or not, but they used to!

awesome photo, motts. weird looking geri-chair.

That geri-chair looks strange indeed...almost more hyper-real than the rest of the shot, like it was Photoshopped in. The fact that it wasn't makes it all the more eerie.

doesn't it, though? :)

Do you remember that if you were tripping on acid and was put in the house of laughter on a paper, that if they gave you thorazine, it caused instant death?

Jonny Mac: that sounds really bad, and scary.

and i can still see in my mind the facial tongue flickering tics of this one woman as a result of long term antipsychotic use

In small doses and short term treatment, thorazine is effective for a multitude of things, such as intractable hiccups, acute agitation, etc. The side effects listed by angelwolf only appear with regular, long-term use

I was on Thorazine for around a year after Haldol was not effective.

I developed tardive diskonesia (parkonsonian-type disorder) with tics and movement issues. After discontinuing the medication and usage of cogentin and Vitamin E, the symptoms lessened. I still have a few tics, but they are not as noticable.

Thorazine is a strong drug, but unfortunately you sometimes have to play the odds. Fortunately, newer drugs are available. Of course they are horribly expensive. My prescription of Seroquel is around $1300 a month.

THORIZINE DREAM? IT'S MORE LIKE "GIVE HIM SOMETHING SO WE CAN HAVE A CIG AND GO OUT FOR FOOD" "GOOD IDEA" LETS GO............

I have an idea about what we can do with that Thorazine . . . . . .

And if THAT doesn't work we can always stick it in our ears to drown out all the shouting. :-)

I've left quite a bit of comments lately. Well, one more before bed can't hurt. Not sure what that comment about LSD and Thorazine was supposed to be about, but it does seem to have some success in aborting some acid trips. Remember that, kids! When you start to see your dead grandmother crawling up your leg with a knife in her teeth, you better hope you remembered to keep the thorazine handy. Double super extra bonus points if anyone knows the inspiration for the sentence just before this one!

Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas.

WAS THIS PLACE EMPTY? FOR HOW LONG? WHERE IS IT? HOW CAN I GET THERE. I WANT TO MOVE IN!

Ah yes ... better living through chemicals

Agreed. I am getting kinda sentimental for the good old days before we had those pesky chemicals when we used mechanical restraints, hydrotherapy, ECT, and lobotomies . . . . =8-o

I see this picture and can imagine those patients in white hospital gowns walking around zombie-like in their medicinal haze, through no fault of their own

The chair looks fairly resent, it is call a cardiac chair, because it was originally used for pts with cardiac disorders who could not lay flat.

do they not still use ECT in the US?They still do in bitain.ive been threatened with it before now.luckly my therapist put her career on the line by fighting against the doctor to provent it.See,mental health professionals arent all monsters(except that doctor)

No, most of us actually are. :-)

I knew it! actually the evil mmwwahhaha laugh and sinister background music everytime u get a new victim,i mean client did kinda give it away.

i like the looks of this room very nice

My Psychiatrist has recently put "me" on Chlorpromazine (thorazine) and it was through looking it up on the internet that i found this site. very interesting yet slightly disturbing. I was worried about the apparent and very real risk of developing Tardive Dyskenesia but was assured by my doc that the "small dose
of 100 mg daily " was nothing compared with the massive doses given out inthe 50's of up to 700mg daily .
Any comments welcome.

I have just read an article on the internet about (thorazine). As a result i am
now too scared to take any more and am twice
as paranoid as i was before i started. You just can't win can you. I am requesting a consultation with my Psychiatrist to change
to a more modern neuroleptic as they are more selective so i'm told. it's a tricky dilemma
to be in actually.
www.sntp.net/drugs/thorazine.htm

thank you Elizabeth your comment was
a little more reassuring xx

This pic is so creepy

God that`s a beautiful picture!

actually, I'm struck by the modernity (did I just make up a word?) of the chair and the intact paint job on the walls.

i was born in Bellvue Hospital in 1963 and it look very scary like these pictures.
where is this place and i being a spritualist would love to visit it.
i,m located in New York City

This chair looks shockingly and eerily NEW!

Lynne is such a negative nancy. medication is used to a very large extent to make patients easier to deal with

Work as a paramedic in Bellevue...it's not that scary anymore...lots of the older buildings have been torn down...Thorazine is one of those drugs that you have to see to believe...you'd never think a human being could suffer effects like that.

Another eerie shot, and yet another couple of perfectly good chairs going to waste. The one in the foreground looks practically brand new!

Having spent too much time in psych. hospitals it seems only right that the walls are caving in there. Too imagine the nightmares those patients went through as psychiatry was first getting it's foothold and experimenting with drugs and shock treatments. It seems fitting that the walls containing all those memories should crumble - as if it is too much to bear. The pictures are beautiful.

ECT is still used in the US for major depression, rarely, and very humanely (anesthesia, etc.), as a last resort. and it works. i've observed it first hand. seriously. there's some short-term memory loss and the year in which the treatments are administered became hazy at best and blank at worst (much of it), along with sporadic memory loss of previous events, but if nothing else has worked, it beats the alternative. at my worst I've also been "threatened" with it, though i'd call it more of a "strong suggestion." i was younger than the person i know who had it done, and as beleagured as I was, I couldn't let go of the very memories that plagued me. I know that doesn't make much sense, pragmatically speaking, but that's kind of the point. but i stand by my decision. fact is, it is the patients decision, this isn't cuckoo's nest or requiem for a dream (whose source material was written in the 70s). wasnt always that way tho.

besides, that shrink sucked, he never wanted to listen to what i had to say, the act of which is like a fucking stethoscope to a shrink), and he got his doctorate in fucking Cabo San Lucas for chrissakes (one of those places). so eff him.

I'd like to echo what Max said. I was in the very same situation after a traumatic event.
Anyways a great shot as always Mr. Motts

I have to agree with Lynne on the whole medication thing. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

My mother, a Holocaust and Dresden fire-bombing survivor and German war bride, had troubles coping w/us 6 kids, her war memories and culture shock. Instead of some gentle kindness and guidance that she needed, she was forcibly taken away (around 1963), given shock therapy, and locked in a state mental hospital for a year or two. She came out like a zombie, with a far-away dazed look, memory loss and devastating, to her, diagnosis of "crazy". She continued on the Thorazine for decades, occasionally rebelling by refusing to take it. I spoke up, asking why can't she at least just get to try to live w/o it? I now take care of her, and try to find out what I can re. long-term effects of Thorazine, which seems to be kept hidden. She is permanently damaged; on Seroquel now after being kicked out of a psychiatric ward (they couldn't handle her!).

Sad to read that about your mother. I just think places like this are used to control people not help them. Giving people medication is not solving problems just covering them up. Electric shock treatments that is worse than what people get in prison. How people can even justify this is right is beyond me they just don't have emotions. I have yet to hear about any success stories from patients who lived in these places.

I lived in a grouphome I wouldn't say it was the same as a mental hospital but some things were similar. I was there while in fostercare. They gave kids medication as well in these places. The staff never really told you the truth of what was going on, and never tried to understand you as a person. I always heard we will do what is best for you, but their actions said they really didn't care. You couldn't trust people in these places they weren't family. I think if people would just treat others well, and actually help them then they would be better off. The staff don't want you to progress especially if they didn't like you. When the kids did something the staff didn't like they were restrained I just think it is wrong. The time out was a day of sitting in a chair if you talked hours were added on. It was bad there but I think a mental hospital is so much worse. People were tortured here thinking one day they would leave, and they never left. Even buried on the grounds that is creepy. I only pray that their souls are free, and in everlasting peace.

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