Building 93

this kinda reminds me of the plaza hotle in new york city

It reminds me of Arkam Asylum, the fictional insane asylum from the Batman cartoons and movies.
All that's needed is the big iron gate from Salesian School, and the illusion would be complete.

I've been in there and there is some scary sh*t in there.

you cant walk in there without steppin on a bumb

i have bin visiting kppc religiously for years now and this one picture is more amazing than any picture i have ever taken there

um.. i am very upset about the dumb rumors about this place.. nobody was tortured in the basement and anywhere else... the NAACP closed the asylum down because it claimed it was unconsitional, and if the crazies wanted to be homeless they had that choice.

YO THAT SHIT IZ MAD GOOD IT IZ HAUNTED I GOT PICS OF GHOST IN IT LIKE DOCTORS WALKIN AROUND

En engles?

It would SO suck to think that in the afterlife I would be reduced to walking around some hospital I used to work in just because I had been a doc there and then have to endure a bunch of asshat ghost hunters who were unable to communicate with me because they had never learned how to use the English language so as to be understood by others. That WOULD be hell. >:-)

yo that place is no joke def the scariest place ive ever been to i would have gotten inside if it werent for the cops.. there is like a station right there so be careful if you decide to go in.

I love the fact that the sky is blue and everything else is in black and white.

NAACP never shut it down. The police station inside is long abandoned. It is policed daily by OMH, a security sanctioned by NYS, SCPD also watches over it, but there is no police station on grounds.

Why would the NAACP shut down a mental hospital? I am confused.

what kind of camera do you shoot with, these pictures are amazing.

nice pictures, you can get around the security easily if you know what you're doin and you've been there a lot. the only pain in the ass from the start are the triggers that sound the alarm and then a million cops come, considering they don't want you in there.

Having family who lived in the town and worked at Kings Park I can say that the place was a lot more frightening when it was open and the patients peered out the windows at you.

I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, but why would having a patient look out the window at you be scary? Now if the patient was throwing something out the window at you, that 's different.
I'm amazed at how much people put supernatural attributes on these places and the people who lived in them.
Guess what, they were just ordinary people like you and me(ok, probably more like me 'cause I'm a bit nuts) the difference being they needed help that places like these provided.
What in the world is spooky, scary, etc etc about that?
Someone looking out a window doesn't creep me out, someone putting their bum in the window, well, that's a different story.
If I saw someone looking out one of these windows I would have waved to them and tipped them a smile.

Now I am REALLY likin' Van Gogo here. :-)

Thank you Lynne, right back at ya! I don't mean to get all wound up about this, it's just it boggles my mind to see, in this day and age, that there is still so much ignorance surrounding the whole mental health issue thing. I think a lot of people take what they see in movies or read in books and believe it to be gospel truth, real evidence not meaning a thing to them.
It boils down to the fact that many people love to be chilled, thrilled and titillated because society in general has become so addicted to constant entertainment.

anyone know of a good way to get in w/out the cops seeing ???

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that place is amazing but sad at the same time because of how much distruction was caused there. i believe there is something in there because of what happend the last time i went.

you wanna know what really boggles my mind about places like this? think about this for a moment: Kings Park closed its doors in '96. think of the historical events that this building has not witnessed: the deaths of celebrities and presidents, the columbine shootings, 9/11, the columbia crash, the war... it's mind boggling. its almost as if this building as well as other buildings have a sort of innosense of what has happened since they've closed... like they've frozen in time. I don't know, that's just sort've what I thought, since I live on Long Island. it's amazing to think that I was only 6 when this place closed...

Me and some friends broke in
and we heard heavy breathing like a 300 pound dog i knew it wasnt just me cuz all my friends looked at eachother like wtf was that

this sh*t aint a joke son
go in and find out by ur self
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yo not for nothing.... this place is crazy... im tryin 2 get all my friends to go out there sumtime b4 halloween... the only thing is that i need 2 find it.... if u want 2 help me ill send u my e-mail.... that way u wont really be goin thru this whole site.... as far as for what van gogh sed.... i dunno insane asylums r freakin scary as can be.... im sure abandoned prisons r scarier but c'mon, ive herd of painting on the walls that patients drew that depict they're nightmares and that just sounds scary let alone look scary.... but yea i gotta agree wit u vannie, crazy people r just unlucky... and if i had seen them peering out tha window i 2 wood have smiled and waved and maybe thats all they really needed was just a friendly gesture.... however, anything that is abandoned and empty for 10 yeers.... that just creepy, even if its a church or plain old house... take care ya'll and lemme kno about any clues on how 2 get there... thnx -1-

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I went and walked around it last week, pretty creepy, what's the best way to go inside without settin off the alarm.....

ive been inside of all the buildings... including 93... n that shit is scary... i mean i went in the morgue with a cpl of my buddies n we opened up one of the containers n then we just started hearin like strange noises n shit is was bizarre... not to mention all the elctroshock therapy that went on there.. n labotamys n shit like that.... n we found like straight jackets n shit.... u guys can say whatever u want bout it not scaring u n how u think ppl are stupid for associating supernatural shit with KPPC but dont say shit till uve been in there n shit.... go in the tunnels n tell me u aint scared when all of a sudden u become freezing cold n then the nextt second your not.... so like i say... dont knock it til uve tried it

i was there tonite wit my girl and another couple , the shit looked mad Ill but onme of the girls was too scared to try and go in , but we did hear this crazy windy sound and , we werent sure where it was coming from !!!!

hey guys Ive been there a couple times but not in about 2 years....i heard they barred the windows and stuff now. Some of my buddies from school haven't seen it yet so if someone can msg me about how they got in on Instant messenger or even send me an email I would greatly appreciate it.

Building 21 has those little cage-like things. Some of the bars or loose. There's a little hint to you all...
I go there pretty often, so I know my ways to get in. :]

Are these people for real?!?!?!?!
Or, I guess I should say f'reel...

Well ive never been in one of the buildings but ive seen em, and im sure its creepy as hell inside, but not haunted. By the way one guy up there said he heard something like a Dog breathing heavily, thats probably what it was. A building abandoned for 11 years now has to be infested with wild animals.

To all you people out there who dont think this building has spirits out their your nuts!!! I would love to see you spend one night their by yourself with no flashlight and you tell me you wouldnt be freaked out!!! Yea Right!!!!

I'd like to chat with someone that's been in the buildings. I was there a few months ago and went in one building that was just open, the door was a little buried in brush, but once through it, I opened the door and walked in. There were about 600 million cat food cans, so I know I wasn't the only modern human to have been there.
I didn't go too far cause my wife and kids were in the park, but I'd love to have explored a little, maybe someday when I don't have any more dependants.
Some send me an email, clnycuser at hotmail.com

iim thiink about askiin mahh gurllz iif they wanan go there thiis weekend..
ii really wanna go iinsiidee...=D

Good luck with that.....

Hey, I know I'm like the 40th person to do this, but I'm trying to figure out a way to get into building 93 and I'm not the stealthiest of people. If someone could email me at gymnast3088@aol.com and just fill me in on when the sirens go off and how to go about doing it (and possibly share any ghost stories) that would be GREATLY appreciated.
Thanks!

The only creeping thing that i saw on my visit to Kings Park was in one of the building (at the fork in the road by the smoke stack we took a right, and the building i am refeering to is on the left down the road a ways) a rather large building about 6 stories if my memory isn't failing me - about 4 stories up i saw a light flutter on and off about 3 times in a romote room. Other than that the "it is haunted" sceem doesn't seem viable, maby it's because I dont believe in those kinds of things or i just am in denial but i saw nothing that would prove otherwise. One thing i have to ask now; Does KPPC ever "call" anybody back ever since i've first gone i have had urges to go back and see more and explore, am i the only one that gets this?

I Been Dere That place Is MAD haunted =[

What? I don't understand what you are saying... say no to drugs.

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yeah me and my friends went there @ like 11:30 and didnt leave till 5:30 ish but we went into the powerplant the mourge and we were more than halfway in building 93 but then we heard footsteps and ppl whispering so we didnt take the chance off gettin stabbed with a meth needle but ppl messed it up really bad but there are so many buildings even near the open buildings that are still in use

this place is great...me and my buddies always go there and play manhunt...for some reason one of us is always left behind and when we find him the stories are out of this world...usmc

Hollywood...it's amazing how a few movies can lower the intelligence of an entire nation.

The only torture that I'm aware of within the bounds of psychiatry was The Milgram experiment where conformity/obedience was tested on the instructor who would send 'electrodes' into the 'patient' who was actually an actor that really never had any electrodes passing through them. It was a test to see if the instructor would continue to increase the voltage to the point of near fatality. The only torture and ethics challenged on this one by the APA was the fact mental distress could have been caused on the instructors behalf.

HAH. Torture... SMH.

Take Horror movies for what they're worth... pur entertainment.

as far as torture goes, the only torture ever documented were cased of insulin shock treatments, electric shock therapy and pre-frontal lobotomies. and the milgram experiment was far from torture, just a test to see how far a normal person would go.

I just got back from exploring building 93.. Its pretty awesome. Took about 30 mins to find a way in. They did a pretty good job on making sure people can't get in.

thats the best pic in the whole site

my dad, an unkle, and both my grand dad and grand mom all worked @ the facility. When I was a small boy my mom would take me there to visit my dad while he was at work. I haven't. Been In any of the buildings since I was about 12yrs old, but I can tell u I wouldnt expect anthing less then kppc to be haunted. Ive been hunting ghosts for about 6 yrs now and would love to be able to get in there and spend a night and video the events. If ne ghost hunters want to join me on this excursion email me. Dpintuit@gmail. Com

Ive been in this shit numerous times, idk if id say its haunted but some scary damn shits deffinetly happened a few times, ive almost been in every inch of all these building in KP and central islip, if you do happen to get up top to the old police station in that bitch youll get to the top of some stairs with 2 pretty big ass holes in the wall one bigger than the other me and about 10 friends went in was scary because on each side of the holes in the wall was a baseball bat lol but anyway once you get into the room via hole in the wall a loud as fuck alarm goes off you can hear it way past the bar near the place, but its easy as fuck to get in just be real careful for your health, and for police/security....deffinetly watch where you walk outside and inside, and im talkin carefully

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a bunch of my friends and i just went ther yesterday... its pretty wierd. we got into bld 93 . it took a while. there is wierd crap everywhere. it was daytime and we walked through only 3 rooms b4 we tunmr back due to darkness...are there really alarms that can be tripped throughout the buildings??

I want to visit this place. Someone show me.

I believe it they did messed up crap on patients ......like shock treatment and experimental drugs and procedures. I believe they are lost and tortured souls.Many people died there.

Not to meantion .....they (the doctors and nurses) thought these patients were crazy and were immune to pain.....So sad they were patients ...not test subjects!

yo i went there yesterday and that shit is not even scary it is ill to go inside the biggest building

I havent been in there myself, but my brother and a group of his friends have. My bro is punk and all tough and shit, and i've never seen him get scared in my life, and he came home around 3 in the morning and didn't sleep the entire night cause he couldn't shut his eyes. He told me when he was going down into the tunnels or something he felt something grab his leg and try and pull him down. That was enough for him and his friends to leave. He also told me that there are a bunch of drawings on some of the walls. Most of them from people who have broken in like him.. but some were originally from the people in there when it was open.

If you do go in there, watch out for homeless people who stay in some of the less creepy parts. If they're in there by free will, chances are they're crazy so I wouldn't wanna encounter them.

If your looking for other haunted or creepy places, go to sweet hollow road in melville, and research the whole story about that road. It's mad creepy, and when you go up there.. you see some freaky shit. Rumor is that if you see red eyes in the bushes you're gonna die. Those red eyes are supposed to be hell hounds. And theres like an overpass bridge thing on that road where 3 people hung themselves from.

It's some freaky shit.

it was super spooky, i just visited there last night , there was blood all oveer the walls . It freaked me out !!! everyone should go check out room #317 , your minds will be blown away !!

We may consider them "torture" now, but at the time, insulin shock and lobotomy were considered legitimate treatments. Electroconvulsive therapy is still used in cases of intractable depression. The old treatments were not considered torture. There was no other treatment available then, and these were attempts at getting people to a more functional condition so that they could be discharged and return home. As soon as medical knowledge increased and psychotropic medications became available, insulin shock and lobotomy ended. How do you think we get any drug? There are tests on human subjects. The main problem in the past is not that drugs were tested on patients or that some of the drugs were not helpful. That still occurs today. The problem was the lack of informed consent (of course, if a person is being treated for mental illness severe enough to require hospitalization, how capable is s/he of giving informed consent?). Most of the psychiatrists who worked at state hospitals did so because of genuine concern for the patients. They would have earned much more in private practice.

Oh, dme, you poor naive person. Trusting good ol' Mr. Government, Mr. Law and Mr. Court, and or course, Mr. Nice Doctor to take care of you. :(

They only gave lobotomies because it was the best way to help "crazy people"? LOL. The US gave more lobotomies than any other country (though not per capita). One of the doctors who invented the "ice pick" method went completely out of control, trying to break his "record" for giving lobotomies.

Come on! The USSR banned lobotomies in the 1950! THEY knew it was inhumane. HAHAHA.

Also the reasons they had for distributing lobotomies were vague, at best. "Youthful defiance" is one of them. One of the Kennedys was given a lobotomy when she was about 18 or 19 for experimenting with boys.

Plus, in the 50s and 60s, anyone you didn't want to deal with could be sent to the mental institution, whether they were truly crazy or not. Old mothers, out of control teenagers... they were easily classified as "mentally ill" by jerks on a power-kick who had long ago lost any empathy or sense of understanding.

It wasn't always a fair system, and it still isn't, though I'm sure it has gotten better... maybe... anyway, stop being an idiot. The world is a messed up place and not everyone in the world is nice and looking out for your best interests. What I say is the truth. I'm sure you know this, but man, your post sounded stupid and naive. Sorry, man.

Hi - As far as electroshock treatnent still being used today, it is totally different. The voltages applied are minute compared to the tortuous amounts applied in the old days. Nonetheless I am very skeptical as to how beneficial such a simple and somewhat barbaric an idea like electroshock is. I happen to be a depressive and am treated quite successfully with modern meds. I would NEVER allow myself to be subjevted to any shock therapy under any circumstances.

I WOULD BE AFRAID OF GOING TO JAIL, OR EVEN MORE AFRAID OF GETTING ATTACKED BY A CRAZY W/ A DIRTY DOPE NEEDLE THAT SEEING A GHOST.

I was at kppc last night, I dont think it is haunted but I guess that is something you should find out for yourself. Dont go inside though. SHITLOADS of cops, asbestos, rat crap, a few homeless people, alarms (yes inside also) and a decaying support beams. Be safe.

ive been in here is f*ckin wierd and the creepist place in kp

what color were the bums????

My friend and I were going way up one tall building. We stopped near the top where you had to climb a sketchy-looking ladder to continue. It was totally silent except for a bird chirping inside. My friend climbed the ladder and saw it, but the chirping was just so unnerving, and I didn't trust the ladder, so I, er, chickened out... Honestly though, I never felt anything supernatural, though I've only been to 2 buildings.

in 1970 i worked at this hospital. I was 20 years old, and worked with the male patients. My mother also worked there with the teenage girls. I worked in this building for a great many years, and even in the broad daylight, it was the scariest place on earth. The torture i witnessed and reported was the worst know to man. I loved helping these people in need, and they did appreciate it, and said so. My life was in danger many a time, and i was saved by another patient, strange how this is, one patient trying to kill me, and another trying to protect me. I will always remember my days working there, and it saddens me to see it has closed. God bless the souls still there.

I have been here and got chased by about 13 orphans who left there orphanages to live here, and they tried taking my camera because they thought I was going to report them to CPS. But, before I met them, I was heading to the building behind it, where supposively the patients that had no where to go still stay. I did not know this before encountering them. I came into contact with them, and they let me know. Thank god they scared the shit out of me, because if not, I would of went into the building where the "coppertons" reside and who knows what would of happened ....

we went in there a few days ago, went all the way up into the attic. took hundreds of pictures. we charged our phones before we went so they were fully charged...when we got in the building they went dead! very strange! i felt like there was deff souls in that building and its very scary even during the day. we went down a few flights of stairs on the way back down and there was a kid all alone in front of us and we said hey! and he ran down the stairs....but the way he went had a door that was sealed shut and welded shut....there was no place else he went but that way? can anyone explain that? then we decided to leave....

First of all, try riding your bike through there in the early 1970's at 9:00pm (pitch black) with all the patients screaming out the windows - At the age of twelve -we were scared shitless.

Anybody else remember messing with Ziggy or Saving Cream , they would go ballistic and the guys in the white coats would come and take them away kicking and screaming !!!

I know it sounds cruel, but it was a right of passage for kids to mess with the patients. I thought it was normal at the time , now it seems kinda creepy.

We are meeting at the campsite behind Hills tonight... Don't forget to bring Schaffer beer and the bread crates. bread crates make the best bond fires.

TRUE STORY!!!!!

I am a skeptic when it comes to ghosts or paranormal activity. I believe there is an explanation for everything. Well, I've been to that building a few times, going in only once in 2000.

I went into the building with a friend of mine who is a very big guy and is afraid of NOTHING. We saw writing on the walls, patient beds all over the place. We saw chairs that had devices on them that looked like shock therapy...I'm not an expert so I can't say for sure. We walked up about 4 flights of stairs and we began to hear what appeared to be scratching noises on the floor above us. We both thought it could have been rats or raccoons, but what happened next changed my thoughts on ghosts. We heard heavy breathing for a second or two followed by the loudest female scream I have ever heard. I kid you not, this wasn't something caught on an EVP or anything like that...this was a scream as if someone was getting murdered. I was terrified and looked at my buddy...he turned to me out of breath and said "Oh f*ck, RUN!". I jumped down every flight of stairs and ran out the building through the side window we entered. We met friends of ours outside who were waiting for us and they were like "WTF was that noise in there", so we knew we weren't the only ones who heard it.

A few months later another one of my friends wanted to see the building. I told him I would take him to see it but that I wasn't going anywhere close to it nor inside it. Well, we got about 75 yards away when we both heard a loud bang from the inside of the building. Sounded like someone hit the bass drum up there as loud as they could. We crouched down in fear and waiting 5 minutes before proceeding. As soon as we took another few steps, we heard the bang again. Needless to say we turned around and hightailed it out of there.

I grew up in that area and know first hand the rumors and stories associated with this place. I can also tell you first hand that I have heard things and felt things in there that are definitely not friendly. The Kings Park Insane Assylum is a terrifying place and is definitely a haunted spot. If you're crazy enough to go inside, I suggest you proceed with extreme caution.

i was exploring the place yesterday. went into a couple buildings then decided to go into 93. once i stepped in i just got a terrible feeling bout it like something didnt want me there and promptly left. the wierd thing about it is months ago when i was there for the first time 93 felt extremely peaceful and serine to me.

Is this place sealed off to the public or is it go in at your own risk?

I went to KPPC about three weeks ago, strolled the grounds (which are now a county park). There was a soccer game going on on the field, and tons of families bicycling around the buildings. Which, if you ask me, is mega-creepy.

That said, I didn't see any way inside any of the buildings short of breaking windows, sawing through locks and chains, etc. I saw no cops patrolling or anyone who seemed to even remotely care that my friend and I were behind the fences and trying to get inside.... How the heck do I get in?

the inside of that abandoned place was SICK gave me a nasty feeling the way they tryed to make them go normal was nasty and they still had the tools to do so!! It was nasty but it wasnt easy getting in and in one room they had the draws were they would lay the dead boddies were out and me and my friends just got a mad heat rush! It was insane and getting out was hard but trying to find our way out was scary because all we heard above us was moving of stuff and bangs and it was a night I will never forget!

These buildings are crawling with bums and copper robbers who will kill you. Never go in the tunnels.

Be careful when in these buildings. Always wear something over your nose and mouth do to the Asbestos. A lot of the floors are unstable and may cave in when walked on.

i attempted to go in one of the building once.. but when i approached the door it had written on it "GO AWAY, you will be arrested. it happened to me" something like that.. i got the clue and just kept walking. i heard of someone i know going in and finding old artifacts such as photographs of the patients families and what not.. I walked around the abandoned town.. i guess it is.. i also heard something about a town of midgets. but it can be a rumor.. last I was there in 2003 one of the main buildings had a bunch of art paintings all over and the grounds were open to the public as a park.. it was really nice acutally.

It was really cool we went inside and you could actually climb a stairwell to the roof it was amazing

I really want to go there and visit the place because it sounds really interesting. My friends have been there and said it was really crazy. I m interested in going there some time before they tear it down.

How's the security on the place? We were trying to find a way in but couldn't, although we were pressed on time and more concerned about stealth. I'm getting unreliable reports of alarm systems inside the building, and you have to be pretty primitive to get arrested considering the large number of places you can hide not to mention trees/brush.

my grandpa says he was a cook in group for he has herd yelling screaming and pots flying omg!

Its so hard to get in now, I cant find any more ways in

After reading some of these comments, I weep for the future of this country. Good Heavens kids, at least learn to use the spell check & grasp a basic command of English.

Gotta watch out if you get into the buildings. There is alot of asbestos, that is one of the reasons why the buildings haven't been reclaimed. Not to mention a large homeless population that lives in the woods there.

Shit is wild.. i know i been in this building and another building last week... I heard some crazy shit lt alone crazy ass socks!!!!

Well back in 2003 my homeboys wanted to take a trip to the KPPH, so we all got high and decided to go, well when we got there only 3 of us wanted to go in, a few people at the bar across the street said be careful and watch for cops, we didn't see any so we went around the bushes to find a way in while the other 3 stayed behind, so we found a doorway open and just walked in and went up the stairs, we went through the hallway and started opening doors and came to one door that was so cold and hard to open that once we did get it open saw blood on the walls and a window open but it wasn't cold outside so you tell me why it was cold in that room and no other room, so we walked on and went upstairs again through a door which we left open so we could go back down, we got to the kitchen it appeared and walked around, and walked up to a row of windows and seen what appeared to be a car driving up with its headlights on which later when asked the others left behind never happened so that seemed crazy there, plus when we ducked down to get away from the lights of the car we thought was there we heard movement in the ceiling above us and then to not waste much more time since they were waiting for us down there we decided to backtrack our way to go back down the stairs we came up we found the door locked so we was like damn, so how did that happen, so we had to find another way down and eventually did and climbed out an open boarded up window that was loose and ran back around to see our other friends who said we were up there for like an hour which didn't seem like it, we never made it to a lot of spots we wanted to, like the tunnels, morgue and other spots, and the cemetery, really it felt like it was somewhat haunted but the spots that were the most spooky we never seen, but I did feel something there the hour we spent there, it was an interesting experience that I'll always remember though!!

For those who mention that treatments there weren't inhumane, because they were all that were available to help patients at the time, and that as advancements were available they were discontinued... I would agree that many people working there had good intentions and were well meaning, but I recently saw a very interesting documentary on the hospital directed by a former patient, and I can assure you that many of the things that went on there were HORRIFYING. Patients who were deemed bothersome were at times killed by the nurses and orderlies (this information was provided by a former doctor at the facility who was deeply disturbed by that practice). As funding for the hospital decreased and the place got more crowded, the conditions for patients got worse and worse... little consideration was given to their treatment and recovery and more about just keeping them from being a burden to the functioning of the hospital. Since the hospital was pretty much the whole town for much of the 20th century, alot of people ended up working there because there weren't many other options, not because they wanted to help people. This led to a great deal of apathy in the treatment of patients. It also meant that many people hired had no business dealing with people who were disturbed, and some took pleasure in humiliating or torturing the patients.

In the earlier half of the century, many people ended up in that hospital who had NO business being there such as the poor, orphans, or the elderly. There was a man in the documentary who was put in the hospital at age 4 when he ran away from foster care and was deemed "to difficult" to deal with. The man endured abuse, was put in ward with mentally disturbed adult males and was even sexually abused by a worker at the hospital. He was put to work on the grounds, never sent to school and never even taught to read. He was so disturbed by his time at the hospital that when they brought him on to the grounds, he couldn't even approach the building that used to be his home for years and he literally started to shake and cry. He was a perfectly mentally sound child and is now haunted by his time there even almost 60 years later. Stories like this seemed to be all too common in the documentary.

Obviously in institutions of that size there are going to be problems, it is impossible to house that many patients and employ that many people and have things run perfectly smooth or without incidents. This problem only increases when talking about government run facilities. The saddest thing is that when this place closed, thousands of patients were left homeless or shuffled through an already crowded system that doesn't care enough. Many ended up on the streets or in prison because there was nowhere else for them to go and they aren't equipped to live "normal" lives without someone to attend to them. One worker told a story about a discharged patient that was driven into the city and just dropped in front of the welfare office. The man didn't even know his own name let alone where he was, and was just left there.

There is also a mass grave somewhere on the property... a mass resting place for already tortured souls who had nobody to bury them properly... that alone guarantees some creepy vibes.

Is this the "humane" treatment that some of the people posting here are talking about?