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[Zwheels]

i have a person i know here at the apartments [my nieghber] that is thinking of
"ending it all". this person has no one and no family to fall back on. this person belives that there is nothing left to live for. i know it's not my biz to say no or yes. i belive if you want to then it's up to you. i myself would not want to leave a mess for someone else to clean up if you can. i was wondering if anyone else has an opinion or view on ending your own life here on this ol world. is it right/ wrong
or whatever.

[Dr Sketch]

My opinion has always been this: think of the people who have to clean that up.  If you're gonna blow your brains out, at least go outside.... 

Really though, I doubt I would ever do it, but I also think most individuals are smart enough to decide if they want to live or die.  It's sad, because every human life is important, and you only get one (unless you believe in reincarnation), so it seems like a waste to me.  Still though, in the end it is his decision, not mine....

[Kitten7]

It is sad to get to that point. The fact of the matter is: it's his choice. I do agree with Dr Sketch about leaving a mess though. One needs to be careful not to unintentionally "involve" others in their "exit". (such as, a person I knew decided to jump off a bridge overpass onto the highway....it involved the poor sob who inevitably hit this person with their car) And one must be careful if the police are called, not to turn it into a suicide by cop. All in all, it's a very personal decision to be made carefully by the person in question.

[Lyric]

You know....  Taking the fast way out.. is a cop out to life.

Majority of the problems that people have that put them in this frame of mind are...  Controllable.
Either with therapy, medication, or a change in the circumstances of your life.

Being lonely... is a poor and pitiful excuse IMO..  Why are you lonely?  Is it because you sit in your house and don't go out?  Get a bleedin hobby already.

You can go to the library or the bookstore and join a reading group.  The one at the library is free
Get a ball of yarn and a couple sticks (YES, GUYS TOO) and go to the local yarn store and get into a stitch n bitch
Go do something you have never done before.. Get out, go the musuem..
Go take a dance class
Learn how to do something that you have been curious about.  When your coworkers ask you to go for Friday happy hour.. GO

Don't sit there on your a$$ and feel sorry for yourself.  

IF you suffer from depression.. get a counselor.. get meds..  just DO something.
Hell, if you have the extra cash.. join match.com..  and just make friends.

There is too much out the world to just let it pass you by.

If you have no immediate family...  That's okay...  you get to actually CHOOSE the next one.

I have no sympathy for people who take the cowards way out of things.

[Lyric]

Oh yeah.... incase you missed the burning bush Z.... That was your "cry for help"
Order Pizza, rent a couple movies and make yourself a new friend.

[Kitten7]

I can agree with what you say Lyric but when you're in that dark place you don't have the energy or life force to actually DO anything positive to change it. There are so many sides to this issue it's impossible to say any one of them is correct.

[SouthOfHeaven]

Eh, I see suicide as not a bad thing, and if the man wants to, he can do it. I for one would do it, and have come close to so many times. In my opinion, it comes down to You
're gonna die anyway, so why sit through bullshit when you can end it?

[Big Ed]

Look at it this way who you gonna call?  The police or other authorities can't do anything until something actually happens.  Or they observe themselves he's a danger to himself or others.  You can call them and let them know maybe someone will check it out.  It will boil down to your word versus his.  You have to live with your conscience, if you need to do something call a hotline or the cops then you can sleep better knowing you did something.  His life , or death is not your responsibility.  What ever you do, or don't do, you can rest easy, and have no guilt.

[Barbara]

Well, I would have to say its wrong.  I've given it a lot of thought and I know that you can be really miserable and think no one cares but that's never the case.  There's always at least someone that truly cares.  Heck, even you seem to care at least a little.  In fact even I care and I don't even know the guy! 

Whatever happens, you always end up hurting someone – in fact more than one person – deeply.  Said persons will feel guilty the rest of their lives thinking they caused it – doesn’t matter how much someone says it wasn’t their fault or how many times its mentioned in a “suicide note” that its not.   It will ruin other people’s lives. 

And…as much as I hate to say it – it is a coward’s way out.  Think of the thousands of people who have endured things 100 times worse and then ended up perfectly happy. 

If everything is not ok, then it’s not the end.

I hope this guy rethinks his decision and does not do it – I know how terrible it is when you are in the depths of such feelings, and how it really seems like the only out…but its not – it never is.

[Felyne]

I believe a person has the right to death just as they have the right to life.

This is something I blogged back in December 2005.

I've been giving this a lot of thought today, and all I have are questions with no real answers.

Why is suicide illegal and so socially 'wrong'?   

If a person has decided they want to end their life, what right does another human have to make them suffer through it?    Isn't that a basic freedom?   Just as a person has a right to life, surely they have the equal right to death?  Who is the real benefiter from them continuing to live?

I imagined if it were legal.   No more Kurt Cobain brains on the wall.  No puddles of blood on the bathroom floor.  No more 'police suicides'.  If you could just rock into a pharmacy and purchase a box of Endital, take one with your morning coffee, how different the world would be

There are a lot reasons for ending it, and sure self pity is one of them, but it's not all of them.   A human mind needs purpose, and if it has decided it doesn't have that, then logically it makes sense there is no reason to continue.  That is another reason.

I'm not sure Zwheels mentioned anything about loneliness?  I might have misread into that though.  If you rely on others for your happiness then you will always be lonely to some extent.

At the end of the day, life is what you make it.

[Kitten7]

That's a very good point Felyne! Another reason could be brain chemistry. Without knowing the reason behind the feelings, there is no way to say if this is the "right" way for this person.

[Lyric]

Okay, before I cause an uproar... I used a lot of "YOU" in my post..  That was a general you.. it wasn't directed at anyone in particular

[Kitten7]

Ok...You are right...

Lyric your use of "you" was understood.(if I can speak for all..)

[Kitten7]

As long as you didn't say "youz guys" I guess it's ok, Lyric

[Felyne]

Yes, the figurative and not the literal applies to my comment as well.