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[Sian]

Woah.

Attracted to young boys in what way? Sexually? A Desire to spend a lot of time with them?

How old is your friend?

[seclusion]

Woah.

Attracted to young boys in what way? Sexually? A Desire to spend a lot of time with them?

How old is your friend?

if ur reply is to me ..
 he is 25 years old marryed and his wife is having a girl due in 5 months,
  he isnt sexualy atracted to boys ( so he said) just a physical emotinal atarction I guess.
  IDk realy.. he said he been a Boylover since he was 14. i looked up boylover on google and got loads of odd websites some are about pedosexuality and some are about love and fellowship and support.. im lost on this one .. i think i dont realy want to know any more about this ..
  it might just begin to make me assume shit that isnt real ..
      "to each his own do as thou wilt as to harm no others"
im out on this one.

[Kadee]

Seclusion I mean no disrespect to your friend, but if he is truly interested in mentoring and helping young boys, why not be a part of Big Brothers.    Being apart of something called "Boylovers"  IMHO sends the wrong message out there.  This is not to say that I think your friend is hiding something, I don't know him who am I to judge, but the name in itself is something that sends up a red flag for me.  I do understand there are men out there who ligitimately want to mentor young boys, and I find that commendable, but the name they refer to themselves  as is something  that should be considered for change.  As the  mom of a 13 year old boy, I sure would be nervous if he had contact with someone from a group called Boylovers.

Again, understand I do not mean this as  disrespect to your friend, this is just my opinion.

[seclusion]

Seclusion I mean no disrespect to your friend, but if he is truly interested in mentoring and helping young boys, why not be a part of Big Brothers.    Being apart of something called "Boylovers"  IMHO sends the wrong message out there.  This is not to say that I think your friend is hiding something, I don't know him who am I to judge, but the name in itself is something that sends up a red flag for me.  I do understand there are men out there who ligitimately want to mentor young boys, and I find that commendable, but the name they refer to themselves  as is something  that should be considered for change.  As the  mom of a 13 year old boy, I sure would be nervous if he had contact with someone from a group called Boylovers.

Again, understand I do not mean this as  disrespect to your friend, this is just my opinion.

 I couldnt agree with you any more, I have questioned him about this term boylover, it means Pedophile .. at least that what google said.
  I dont want any connection with  his boyloverness.
 He is a member of BBBS and I have been trying so damn hard to get his mind off young boys and to get into something that he can do with out be looked at as a outcast to society.
he has stoped calling him self a boylover and now goes with the term "Big Bro" one day while he was out he left his laptop in my car, i installed a program called EnCase its the same program the FBI uses to investagate computers, I searched his hard drive for keywords, Nothing showed up, i was releved, some one told me that he could have kiddy porn ..

  Today John is a good guy, no more Boylove sites .. just pure love and affection for youth, he has been givin an award for showing excellence in mentoring local youths in schools and churches.
   
If i had a boy and sum adult man calling him self a boylover came to my child and wanted to hang out i would proly call the police.

[StareGirl]

On another board I asked the question as to why was Dateline NBC still catching these guys every week?

Are they getting lucky on a regular enough basis that it's worth the risk? Are 13 year olds putting themselves out there for these guys?

The reason "they" meaning the many people that make up perverted-justice keep getting these men is because these men are still willing to make first contact with a contrib, posing as a young girl or boy (usually age 14 or below).  The reason they keep showing up at the house is that the men are the ones who bring up sex first, bring up meeting with the child first and then show up at the house.

If you wonder if the 13 year olds are 'putting themselves out there for these guys" you might want to read the chat logs, you will see the exact opposite.

I was molested by my father off and on until I was 10. Dad molested, we estimate, maybe 20 kids before he died. Let me add to this discussion by telling you how my dad worked and how he was successful (We had tried to bring charges against him for molesting u s and a family friend), I think everyone should know because he's the most common type of pedaphile - the trusted friend or family member.

I am so sorry you were molested.  The scary thing to me is that some of these selective pedophiles are starting to turn up online. We are seeing guys arrested for showing up at the house who had molested family or 'family friends' in the past.

[Lyric]

Okay, I have to ask.

We all know that a human being can deal with only so much "ick" before they go nuts themselves.

Who is seeing to the mental health of some of the people who work for PJ?  Please tell me that there is counseling available for these people who are working hard to catch predators.

[StareGirl]

I was so confused I was thinking my friend is a Pedo and molest lil kids.
He opened my eyes to a new world. i aksed PJ on there message forum what they think of boylovers, they said they are nothing but pedophiles.
and they cant be more wrong. dont get me wrong here im sure there is some pedos who hide behind the name "boylover" but there are those who truly care for kids.

My sister 'cares for kids'.  She has been in the child mental health field most of her life until she went back to college. She isn't a boylover, girllover or anyting else.  She loves to help kids. She doesn't love them, nor does she need to identify with others who share this love.  

During a Michael Jackson case a few years ago I went to the boylover sites.  that is one of the things that brought me to PeeJ.  One only need to google Boylover and go to the first website on the list.  It claims to be there for support yet has a picture of a young boy running in the water naked, his leg just barely covering his genitals. This is the main support board for BLers.  IYeah, they really just care about kids.  This is  the same site that will not allow porn trading or mention of sex acts.  You will see many members use the word AOA though (age of attraction). Yeah, it isn't sexual.   The majority of avatars on the website are young good looking male children. If you go "the store" newbies can pick young boys for their avatar.  Or graphics that have the "support" website logo with a picture of a young boy, perhaps age ten, in a sexual pose or naked until the picture cuts off at his navel.  But hey, its just support.

And of course there is the slogan banner they offer for free download "Sex is good, Abuse is bad".  But yeah, no sex on that board, its all support.

Here is a quote from 'about BL.net'

The English language term 'boylove' was coined in the last few decades, because in some western societies the technical terminology for this form of orientation or attraction has become vilified in the public mind.

The original technical words are Greek -- 'pedofilia' (paedophilia) refers to the emotional and affectionate love of youngsters, while 'pederasty' refers to the physical love. In certain societies these words have become so negative in their emotive connotations that true pedofiles and pederasts have preferred to call themselves boylovers as a way of distinguishing their orientation from those who abuse children.

The mixed Greek-Latin term 'pedosexual' is more clinical, does not carry so much emotive baggage, and clearly indicates a sexual orientation in the same way that the words 'heterosexual' and 'homosexual' do. Some boylovers use this term to describe themselves. It pays to bear in mind that these words are names for a sexual orientation, and not descriptions of a person's active life -- someone may be heterosexual but celibate. For obvious reasons, in societies where they are misunderstood, that is often the case with pedosexual people.

Yeah, I'd agree with BL here, it is a sexual orientation to children.

According to freespirits, which is the second largest support site for BL

How do boylovers feel about child molestation?

Free Spirits doesn't have official positions because we only exist to provide web sites and foster communication. There is an ethical consensus among the BoyChat community and the keepers of the sites, however, that all forms of non-voluntary sexual contact are to be condemned...Discussions on BoyChat delve deeply into ethical issues. No regular reader could fail to be aware of the ethical issues of his attraction. Victims of sexual abuse find not only support and caring, but also strong condemnation of their abusers. Posters who contemplate anything abusive get very short shrift from the rest.

Participants are also very aware of the legal issues. They understand the extreme penalties for even the slightest physical contact or suspicion of sexual contact between adult and minor. They know about the knock on the door in the middle of the night, the removal of and destruction of property, the planting of evidence and the extraordinary mental and sometimes physical torture of possible victims. They know that boys, even if not already victims, will become so at the hands of the police in the name of child protection. Readers are aware of the bashings and rapes in prison; the informing of neighbours and employers and the sign in the yard, the modern Scarlet Letter. They are aware also of the enforced "therapy" that consists mainly of destroying the offender's sense of self worth with no chance of actually changing sexual orientation.  

 But yeah, its not about sex, BL really just love boys.

Another site that has info from BL'ers POV is http://www.prevent-abuse-now.com/pedoweb2.htm
Since this is not a boylover site I felt okay to leave the link intact, it is yucky but SFW.  Admin-- feel free to take it out.  I have left the other links out for obvious reasons, don't want anyone to get in trouble by clicking on them. You can google them if you wish easily by the info I gave out.

[StareGirl]

Okay, I have to ask.

We all know that a human being can deal with only so much "ick" before they go nuts themselves.

Who is seeing to the mental health of some of the people who work for PJ?  Please tell me that there is counseling available for these people who are working hard to catch predators.

There is a support network for the contributers who go in the rooms and bust these guys.  Many others also find it helpful to go to boards and websites that have nothing to do with pedophilia to relax and 'get away from it all'.

[Lyric]

Okay..  I am glad to hear it.

I am sure it gets to some people, and when it happens you can only deflect so much in your own mind.

[Chippy]

some young girls will come on to you they just don't know what they are geting into. the adult male should know and fight the urge. quote]

I agree, I get really annoyed when these men blame their libido for a crime. The sex-drive can be strong, but it's not UNCONTROLLABLE. I DO laugh at these 13-year-old girls in miniskirts parading themselves around town. It's disgusting and certainly isn't helping the matter, but these girls don't deserve to be raped even if they are dressed like mini-strippers. I think they dress like that to get attention from boys THEIR OWN AGE, because they don't know any better, and they don't understand that it could attract unwanted attention as well. Not to mention the fact that they are portraying themselves as nothing but pleasure toys or "sex objects", which is pretty terrible at any age. That being said, there is NO excuse for taking advantage of an underage child of either sex.

I'd like to also voice my agreement with the statement that it IS terrible that homosexuals and pedophiles are considered by some to go hand-in hand. It's rediculous. You can be homosexua, bisexual, transexual, or heterosexual and be a pedophile, but just because you are homosexual does not mean you ALSO are a pedophile, or that you are more likely to be one. It really burned me up when they banned homosexuals from the Boy Scouts because they were afraid the children would be molested by the homosexuals. It was just a perfect example of the fear caused by this tragic misconception. I have a few guy friends who quit the BSA shortly after that.