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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2006, 01:11:52 pm »

Hi, thanx for all the welcomes. Living so far away half the places I have seen here will be long gone before I ever make it across the water Sad
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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2006, 01:21:23 pm »

I know what you mean Bex......... I live in Canada and I won't get to them either.   :cry:
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« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2006, 02:18:10 am »

It's nice to know that all these pictres will be here long after the buildings are gone. At least future generations will get to see them even if it is only pictures. Saying that, most of Motts pictures make you feel as though you are there anyway lol
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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2006, 11:38:47 pm »

All I have to say is thanks for the stalls and thank god there is no plans for a Wal-Mart to go there.
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« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2006, 06:34:50 am »

the guy needs to go back to school for math class.
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« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2006, 07:25:32 am »

I posted this information on another website, so I know some of you probably saw it.  The article at the start of this thread looks to be from early February, whereas the information I have comes from a March 6, 2006 issue of Philadelphia Construction News (which is basically a newspaper of jobs that are coming out for bid).

"Byberry State Hospital Tract Redevelopment, Phase 1"

The new call for bids lists 300 Residential Units, which would be a revised number from what they were looking to build before.  The actual bidding is set for a very vague "Late 2006."  So it looks like Byberry may be running out of time, especially if the revised number of homes gets accepted.  However if bids aren't accepted until the end of this year, there'll still be some chances for people to get some last looks in.

I'll try to keep things updated as more information comes my way.
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« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2006, 07:46:14 am »

Great, thank you Weezknight!

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« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2006, 09:19:37 am »

Quote from: "straightjacket"
Thank god for red tape!
My mom has to deal with this stuff all the time. She's on the community council. They want to build a mall across the street from my house. There will be the stores everyone hates. And people are losing their homes. Also, the place where they are building is my hang-out. A few trees, hills, and lots of flowers. It's really beautiful. And that's where I first communicated with a spirit. No lies. I'm dead serious, haha!!
I'd hate it if they demolished the 'berry before I got a chance to go there. I know, I'm always saying I want to go there. But I'm not allowed to  go very far from home, so it's natural that I'd seek adventure. I'm a rebel, I know. Smiley
Most of the videos I've seen are crappy. I'm looking forward to watching this one.



aww..I hope they can stop the builders from tearing down your woods, sweetie. :cry: I had precious woods near my house growing up, and when I was 14, me and my friends ripped the real estate signs out of the groud and hid them nearby so nobody would see them. (they were friggin' HEAVY! Took several people) Well, the woods are still there to this day. BUT...it was not cause I took the signs, it was probably cause the woods got sold and the new owner just kept them woods. What I did not realize was that all my crazy sign moving was pointless..real estate companies have books they publish listing available acerage. If I had realized that, I do not know how gung-ho I would have been to steal the signs. :roll:

Just wanted to share my story with you cause I felt the same way about special wooded places like you do when I was your age, and I still do. Good for YOU. You love the special things in life rather than being a zombie excited for the next new mall stores to be open. Stores are a dime a dozen, special places are few. You're awesome! :wink:
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« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2006, 05:17:12 pm »

it's not looking good this has been making the internet rounds....

Byberry's Long Goodbye

Urban explorers say so long to the infamous mental hospital; neighbors say good riddance.

by Andy Greenberg

The 130-acre campus of Byberry State Mental Hospital sprawls across the Somerton section of Northeast Philadelphia like the rotting corpse of a giant. Since it closed its doors in 1990, the notorious asylum has decayed, leaving behind a morbid, intricate skeleton. Windowless corridors connect enormous rooms flooded in darkness and filled with mangled medical equipment. A warren of tunnels, once used for transferring patients, runs beneath the 17 buildings that cover the compound. Some rooms are burnt beyond recognition. Many of those that remain intact are more disturbing, relics of an era when the criminally insane were strapped to their beds for days, crowded into barren rooms or locked in solitary confinement cells.

Today, those tortured souls have been replaced by a new set of misfits, and unlike their predecessors, these denizens of Byberry come and go as they please. Every weekend night, as many as 100 urban explorers infiltrate the hospital's condemned property in groups of threes and fours, seeking souvenirs, photos, evidence of the paranormal and the thrill of slipping through a crack in the city's blueprint. Drawn by urban legends, curiosity and a vast network of online forums and personal Web pages, these self-styled "Byberrians" gather on the site's rooftops and in its tunnels to drink, smoke and share stories. A handful of regulars leave their pseudonyms on its walls: Radical Ed, Buck, Wanky, Red Dragon, Beef, Goddog, Robbie Knobbie.



"I kind of had an obsession with that place since I first heard about it," says 27-year-old Goddog, a maintenance man by day and Byberrian by night. "At first it was about the history, and then after I started to hang there, there was a kind of culture about it that was really unlike anything else I've ever seen." For Goddog and those like him, Byberry has become a monument more to the trespassers themselves than to the hospital's dark past. He describes walls covered in "spray paint on spray paint on spray paint."

But Byberry and its unique culture will soon come to a violent end. According to contractors at Westrum Development, demolition of the century-old buildings is expected to begin as early as next month. Philadelphia Industrial Development Corporation (PIDC), who bought the site from the city for $850,000 two years ago, plans to use roughly 50 acres for office buildings and 50 acres for housing aimed at the elderly, leaving 30 acres as green space. Minor zoning board issues are still being worked out, but only a thin line of red tape stands between Byberry and the wrecking ball.

Given that the asbestos-filled site's destruction will cost between $15 million and $20 million and will take nearly a year, the city's booming residential housing market has only recently made development worthwhile. With its empty remains replaced by new buildings, Byberry will become valuable property: The residential portion of the site alone is expected to fetch close to $140 million from its new occupants.

For Byberry's neighbors, the first building couldn't fall too soon. Mary Jane Hazell heads the Somerton Civic Association and has lived in Somerton's working-class neighborhood—what she proudly calls "the suburbs within the city"—for 40 years. She's been campaigning to have Byberry's ruins destroyed since the hospital was first condemned. "Those half-torn-down buildings, it sickens the stomach," she says. "It just doesn't belong in the kind of setting that we have here in Somerton."

After 16 years of abandonment, Byberry's initiates are skeptical that the hospital will actually be demolished, but even so, they're preparing for the end of an era. "We're just trying to enjoy it before it's gone," says Goddog.

"To us, it's more than just a bunch of abandoned buildings," says Chip, a 23-year-old software developer who visits Byberry about once a week. Chip has visited other urban exploring hot spots like Pennhurst State Hospital, Lambertville High School in New Jersey and Haverford State Hospital, but he always returns to Byberry. "I've gotten really attached to the place. I've met so many people there that I'm really close with, and we really don't want to see it go."

Like his friend Goddog, Chip first came to Byberry looking for evidence of the hospital's gruesome history. "For me, urban exploring is about seeing what most people never know exists," he says. "If you can find a place in good condition, it's almost like going back in time."

For Chip, Byberry's history becomes most compelling at its darkest. He has read and re-read Shame of the States, Albert Deutsch's 1948 account of atrocious treatment in American asylums, which compared Byberry to Nazi concentration camps:

I entered buildings swarming with naked humans herded like cattle and treated with less concern, pervaded by a fetid odor so heavy, so nauseating, that the stench seemed to have almost a physical existence of its own.

Deutsch's muckraking led to reforms, but the hospital's ever-increasing patient population was never matched by proper funding. Stories would sporadically emerge of patients sleeping in hallways, beaten and neglected by alcoholic staff members. After a final wave of scandal in the 1980s, the state gave up on Byberry.

Since the hospital's abandonment, it has rarely been vacant. The first wave of trespassers stripped the buildings of copper wiring, paneling, anything of monetary value. When curious urban explorers later discovered Byberry's shell, they picked over its remains, searching for any sign of the stories they'd heard. Chip recently found a patient's identification card. Goddog's most exhilarating discovery was a hollow cornerstone. He smashed it open to reveal a time capsule, complete with a newspaper from the day of the building's groundbreaking.

Hazell remembers the elegance of Byberry's interior before it was closed. "There was carved woodwork and marble, like the way City Hall is," she recalls. "You can't even buy woodwork like that today."

She blames trespassers themselves for the building's demolition. "I think it's sad that history can't be preserved," she says. "If someone had done something immediately, a lot of those buildings could have been saved."

PIDC's John Grady, who is responsible for the site's development, takes a less sentimental stance. "What's the history that's been there?" he asks. "There's a bunch of old hospital buildings."

Grady and Hazell express concern for the site's safety, and Hazell points to the fate of James Lowe III, a 49-year-old building inspector who fell two stories to his death when a stairwell collapsed beneath him last year.

Goddog dismisses these safety concerns, claiming that no trespasser has ever been injured in the buildings. Nonetheless, he sympathizes with neighbors who are ready to see Byberry developed. His opponents are less merciful: "I have no remorse [for the trespassers.] They don't belong there," says Hazell. "I have nine grandchildren, and they don't have to run and hide in Byberry. Find something else to do with your time. Volunteer to help some old person."

Beyond half-joking threats to stand in front of bulldozers, Byberry's visitors aren't putting up any opposition to its demolition. Still, Goddog and his friends will be sad to part with their beloved tramping ground. "For some of us it was a haunted house. For others it was a building with a lot of history," he muses. "I guess that's the thing about an empty building. It becomes what you want it to be.


The article with a nice shot of the infamous dentists chair here:
http://citypaper.n...-03-16/naked.shtml

Kudos to those here mentioned by name.
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« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2006, 08:40:16 pm »

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« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2006, 09:37:58 am »

yes I feel like a idiot,sorry for the double post...
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« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2006, 10:48:26 am »

Quote from: "drew"
yes I feel like a idiot,sorry for the double post...


lol, its okay, it doesnt bother me. i just had to type that, though... old habit.
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