i'm not sure of the legislation in the UK, but here in Australia drugs and poisons are classified using a drug schedule, which currently runs from S2 to S9. The S1 classification, which is now defunct, was for "substances which are of such extreme danger to life as to warrant their being supplied only by medical practitioners, nurse practitioners authorised...pharmacists, dentists, veterinary surgeons or persons licensed..."
(thanks wikipedia!)

S2 - Pharmacy medicine
S3 - Pharmicist-only medicine
S4 - Prescription-only medicine
S5 - Caution
S6 - Poison
S7 - Dangerous Poison
S8 - Controlled Drug
S9 - Prohibited Substance

just a bit of info. :)

another excellent gallery motts.

Awww.... cute.

Thanks Lynne and Big Ed.
I guess we also have to remember that in the days before chemical restraint and effective medications the most unwell people had no way to 'calm down' other than by physical means, which most likely made them even more aggressive and frightened.

Lynne,
What would extreme precautions consist of?
Thanks

Of course it is

check this out Nancy

http://www.uea.ac.uk/h.../patients_form_3.htm

Disappointment?!, jealousy?!

Anyone that uses restraints is a bad,evil person. Especially those mothers using 5 point restraints on their children every time they put them in the car, or the nurses at the old folks home near you who restrain some residents when they use the toilet so that they don't fall off and break a hip. Bad, evil ...

what painting?!

I can see the dog and I can also imagine at least three faces. One woman in half profile just to the left of the dog, one face in full profile on the right near the black dot and one face near the lower window on the left. I'm not one of those "I see dead people"... but the longer I look at this picture the more faces I can imagine in the rotting paintwork.

Those are some freaky looking air-con ducts. Imagine being ill, already having problems with reality, and having to look at those all the time.

Why the mesh? Was there a place down there that live patients went to?

Aerosmith recorded "Draw The Line" on a 100 acre estate in Armonk NY which used to be a convent . It was owned at the time by a psychiatrist who wanted to turn it into a treatment centre for adolescents.

Considering that this place only closed ten years ago, I would guess that this area would have to be for criminally insane inmates. I mean, mentally ill people (that were not criminals) weren't locked up like that in 1996, were they?

Better not drop the soap

Sketch
Not proof but very interesting reading
http://www.carantics.com/chestnutlodge

I wouldn't really call some of the CIA experiments "treatment"

Merry Christmas

A rant on asbestosis and mesothelioma.

Asbestos is the name of a group of minerals that occur naturally as masses of strong, flexible fibers that can be separated into thin threads and woven. Asbestos has been widely used in many industrial products, including cement, brake linings, roof shingles, flooring products, textiles, and insulation. If tiny asbestos particles float in the air, they can cause serious health problems. In addition to mesothelioma, exposure to asbestos increases the risk of lung cancer, asbestosis (a noncancerous, chronic lung ailment), and other cancers, such as those of the larynx and kidney.

The asbestos fibers can easily flake off and are small enough to be completely inhaled deep into the lungs. When they are inhaled into the lung, the lung's defense cells try to destroy the asbestos fibers, but the body's defense mechanisms cannot break down asbestos. The result is that the asbestos fibers remain in the lungs and cause scarring and the inflammation continues for decades. Even a single fiber can cause damage. This thickening and scarring prevents oxygen and carbon dioxide from traveling between the the tiny air sacs of the lungs and into the blood stream, so breathing becomes much less efficient. In people who develop Asbestosis, the inflammatory process (once started) continues to progress, fueled by the indestructible asbestos fibers even after the exposure to asbestos has ceased.

THERE IS NO CURE! Close monitoring (routine X-rays or even pleural biopsy) for mesothelioma is mandated. Oxygen therapy at home is often necessary to relieve the shortness of breath. Supportive treatment of symptoms includes respiratory treatments to remove secretions from the lungs by postural drainage, chest percussion, and vibration.

Mesothelioma (cancer of the mesothelium) is a disease in which cells of the mesothelium become abnormal and divide without control or order. They can invade and damage nearby tissues and organs. Cancer cells can also spread from their original site to other parts of the body. Most cases of mesothelioma begin in the pleura (lining of the chest cavity) or peritoneum (lining of the abdominal cavity).

Working with asbestos is the major risk factor for mesothelioma. A history of asbestos exposure is reported in about 70 percent to 80 percent of all cases. About 2,000 new cases of mesothelioma are diagnosed in the United States each year.

Symptoms of mesothelioma may not appear until 30 to 50 years after exposure to asbestos. The asylum you destroyed today might have already had its revenge on you.

***There is some evidence that family members and others living with asbestos workers have an increased risk of developing mesothelioma, and possibly other asbestos-related diseases. This risk may be the result of exposure to asbestos dust brought home on the clothing and hair of asbestos workers. To reduce the chance of exposing family members to asbestos fibers, asbestos workers are usually required to shower and change their clothing before leaving the workplace.

I got some of the above info from various websites. If you are interested in more information, search.

Even though some people may say that the idiots out there destroying these beautiful buildings deserve to die a painful and horrible death I have to wonder if anyone deserves THAT. I am currently caring for someone with asbestosis and let me tell you, it ain't a pretty way to die.

Sorry to be a downer people, but I thought this needed to be said.

Please Motts,and everyone else, take care in these places and treat them with the respect they deserve.

Bbbbbbbbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!

Meghan,
Don't you think throwing corpses down a chute seems a bit unlikely? Not to mention messy.

Kevin,
Can you give any details about the tour? A friend will be visiting NY soon and is very interested to see the place.

Thanks

I finally rented session 9 and watched it last night after the kids went to sleep. Average movie, but interesting because of the location.

I had just finished it and gone to bed, thinking about "Mary" when my youngest child started SCREAMING and continued to scream for what seemed like an awfully long time. Any of you out there who have ever experienced night terrors will understand how fast my heart was racing. For those who haven't, a night terror is when a child, after falling asleep, starts screaming and appears terrified by something only they can see. They can't be comforted because they remain mentally inaccessible. They seem awake but they aren't. Luckily they don't seem to have any recollection of the incident when they wake up ( unlike me! ).
The timing of it completely freaked me out, so soon on the heels of Session 9.
Yikes! I hope it doesn't happen again. Had trouble sleeping myself after that

NNNNNOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RE: Padded rooms
This place was only closed in 2000.
3rd pic down
http://www.forgottenoh...can/franciscan4.html

Twug
Glad to hear it : )
Much more pleasant without him

Thomas Covenant
You must be a real pussy if you are scared of household creaks. And yes, you may well be insane.