Yes it is different from so called Normal people.
When I was in Devereaux School, in Rutland, MA, I was 8 or 9 and a staff member wanted to show his power, so he grabbed me and hung me out of a 2nd story window by my feet, when the Betty ( I think her name was) came and saw what was going on, that asshole, Jon Baker, said that I tried to jump out the window and he was just trying to bring me back in.

It's crap like that that we kids went through back in those days, and who could we turn to for help?
certainly not an adult, who believes a kid?

boiler 1220,
Hey Dennis, just out of curiosity, is that Dairy Queen still down the road from Gaebler?
I remember going to that when Gary would come up and take me out for a couple of hours.

Pookie,Former Patient,
Well now, you have me at a disadvantage.
You remember me?
Been so long ago.
I am glad that we can come together and perhaps get some closure and maybe healing too.
I think that most of us, if not all, went through hell growing up, not only in this place, but growing up in general.
I know I still have major trust issues because of "the adults" which has made me a kind of recluse.
Seems like every time I trust someone they stab me in the back.
So my trust is hard to earn, but once you earn it, you have a friend for life, unless you lie to me, then trust is lost.

spooky,Motts :-o thanx for the loan of your eyes to see this.Just got a shiver imagining being jokingly handcuffed to the heating pipes & left there,just as the suns going down (:-o

I look at this picture of the gym and I remember Willie taking me and Tony (from D Ward) to have a one on one basketball match, to 21.
I beat Tony 21 to 18, it was a good game and Willie played the ref for it.

I would love to do a documentary, unfortunately I'm in Colorado and don't have the means of getting there.
Dennis mentioned he's close by and knows the places I talked about.
I wish there was a way I could fly there and meet Dennis and people wanting to do a documentary before it gets torn down.

If you do click on my name to read my postings, you have to sift through to the ones with the pictures on here.
There are others Johns that have posted about places I have never been.

Insomnie,
the rumors are true.
If you click on my name you should be able to read all my posted comments on here.
I knew they would tear this down, I posted that I had a feeling about that last year.
Waltham doesn't want the memories of that place to taint them any longer, but those memories will remain, for those of us who was there, forever.

was there,
I just signed up with the yahoo group.

Allyssa,
Sorry, haven't been online in almost a year.
I think I'll sign up for that yahoo group that someone made, if it's still up.

So after I was there they changed the pool room and ping pong rooms into restraint rooms????
Jesus....
I know up on the 4th floor, where medical and dental was, they had restraint rooms and rooms used for experiments.

I also read that someone went in there and got lost???
How could you get lost?
If your standing in the back of the place, centered, then the caffiteria is directly in front of you, if you enter from the left and go through the doors to the hallway, you will come out in the area where we had Coffee hour on the weekends, then just walk out the door and up the small stairs and bingo, you can follow my directions from there. If you go up the stairwell instead of going down the hallway, you'll be on Ward D, just exit there and go down the hall and out through the door and you'll find the double doors to the gym on the right hand side.

But I guess someone would have had to been there to follow my "tour".

For the record, I was not shauna o Boyfriend, I was, for a time, the boyfriend of Kim C. on Ward D.
Ward A was a daycare when I was there.

shauna o

Different John. I'm John D and have red hair.

shes still holding but they put a barbbed wire fence around her

I am not sure if anyonr really checks this message board anymore but these were the carts that I believe were used in an underground baggage subway that left the terminal, went under the tracks to each platform where there was some kind of access door to put the baggage on the trains baggage car. I would love to see if some one could find this passage way system and post pics of it

THE PINES WAS I GOOD PLACE TO WORK IT WAS HOME FOR YEARS I CAN TELL YOU STORY ABOUT THIS PLACE YOU CAN EMAIL ME AT JOHN@BABACO.COM IM JOHN DAVEY WORK IN THE DINNEING ROOM
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IT ANYONE FROM THE 80 REMMBER JOHN DAVEY EMAIL ME AT JOHN@BABACO.COM LOVE TO HERE FROM YOU

THIS WAS A GOOD PLACE I WORK HERE FOR 15 YEARS AND LOVE EVER MIN OF IT AND MISS IT WISH IT WAS STILL OPEN

This is one of the many rooms that i never got to see. too many cops and security. the last time i tried to go there the cops were in the parking lot like they were waiting for me!

Code - i was up there a few times, i heard and saw a few things that i could not explain. freaked me out!

I live pretty damn close to that hospital. I've driven past it, through it, but never went in. Kings Park Psychiatric Center is another one that I would like to "Visit" one day.

yes i was wondering what kind of danger is in this place? i have been ghost hunting for a while now and it has always caught my eye. from what i hear there are cops and dogs on the property is this true? i understand your point about not tearing it down its beautiful and the history of this place is amazing
please get back to me with any more info.

thank you for your time and take care.

I'll take two bars of soap, a box of Oreos, a pack of smokes, and a microwave, please. Oh, and a pound of ground beef. XD

"Not enough money" is a lousy excuse. It would have taken 10 minutes with a hammer and chisel to add the patient's last (or first) name. Then at least they wouldn't have been buried under a numbered grave like a common criminal that the state is ashamed of and wishes to anonymize.

Seriously, I can't comprehend the tiny-minded Puritan moral sickness and shame that would cause an institution of doctors to toss another a long-suffering patient's body in a hole with just a number like a euthanized dog.

Hydrotherapy was supposed to serve as an adjunct to the sedatives and tranquilizers that existed in the pre-Thorazine age. The most common form was prolonged baths, in which they basically strapped down agitated patients in warm water for hours a day in the hope that it would calm them down. Catatonic patients got ice baths or ice wraps for the opposite reason. Neither one worked very well, but that's why you see so many hydrotherapy tubs in turn of the century era psychiatric institution.