Richard - were you ever at the Pines? I know it looks like it is beyond restoration, however nothing is impossible..it amazes me that in just 8 short years it could turn to this...I'm planning a trip up there to hopefully see it for myself...if you grew up there every summer like I did it just does not seem possible and won't for me until I see it for real... e-mail me at Doreen4remax@aol.com and thank you for a response....Doreen :)